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post #1 of 12 Old 05-12-2018, 06:09 PM Thread Starter
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How pissed should i be

I just bought this Jeep a week ago. Jk 14 rubicon w 35’s, and obv some aftermarket steering stabilizer set up. I think springs are stock but not 100% sure, haven’t taken a close look yet. Here’s the issue. Heard a clank when turning steering wheel lock to lock the other night. Since then, I can turn it when moving, but it’s really hard to turn when at a stop. I assumed it was something w powertsteering pump. Fluid level was fine though and haven’t noticed any leaking fluid. Brought it into a shop and they said well, power steering is fine, but the rest of ur steering components were installed by a retard and are totally f’ed.

Take a look at these videos. Look at the play in the drag link, I can literally push it up and down. Look at the stabilizer shaft and how it hits its own mounting bracket?! Obv these need to be replaced by the place I bought it from, and I suspect a wheel bearing for at least this wheel, and I’m going to have ball joints, knuckle and axle shaft examined. Steering box and Pittman arm however don’t seem to have any play. I’m guessing noise i heard on R side was that stabilizer shaft hitting the bolt, and as a result pushing hard against tierod and thus draglink, F-ing them up. Any other components I’m overlooking that could use checking ?


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That flop is 100% normal. How else do you expect either of those rods to move when the axle is moving?

If the "shop" that took a look at it does not know that I would run far and fast away from there.
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Hmm, that draglink play isn’t excessive?
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Hmm, that draglink play isnít excessive?
Play how, left and right or up and down?
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That flop is 100% normal. How else do you expect either of those rods to move when the axle is moving?

If the "shop" that took a look at it does not know that I would run far and fast away from there.
I think he went to see this guy

EDIT: According to the OP he did NOT see this guy. OP needs more steering stabilizers.

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The movement in the first video is normal. It's a ball-and-socket joint. They are designed to have that freedom of movement.

If the rod in the second video is hitting the bolt head, that's bad.

I didn't see anything wrong in the third video. Hard to tell, though, with the camera movement.

Test the joints by hand. Try to move the joint up and down. Don't use pliers to do it, as even a new joint will move up and down with the force of pliers. The joint has a spring in it to take up normal wear. Pliers are capable of compressing the spring.

Turning the wheel lock to lock while not moving is not good for any power steering pump.
Sounds like you may have damaged the vanes in the pump, reducing the amount of power assist.

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Ok thanks. And that’s not who I saw.
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not excessive whatsoever; that is -as @Dkjeep states, certifiably the way tie-rod ends are designed and function.

. If it did not work in that manner you'd bind everything up the first time you turned. those rod ends are diagnosed with gooseneck channel-lock pliers. A set big enough to try to compress the tie-rod end to see if there is vertical play in the joint -beyond what the tiny spring permits- where it moves up and down but flop, as you are seeing, is the way this antique steering technology works .





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"You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded"

Said the "shop" specialist.
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I think I fixed it. The shaft from that steering stabilizer was slightly bent from whacking against that bolt head. It was probably causing some resistance when the stabilizer was going through its stroke. I took both those stupid stabilizers off and turns much better.


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Oh ye done it now laddy..... be getting the death wobble now that you took off the stabilizers

In all seriousness the movement you need to worry about is side to side, not the bar spinning on ball

Looked like right stabilizer was hitting bolt, try loosening the attach point and rotating it forward a bit... What I'm talking about is the piece visible at beginning of 1st vid.

Lose the dual setup and run 1 quality non pressurized stabilizer IMO

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Yea I did. Took the good stabilizer and mounted it back in factory location. I will say FWIW, I ran w/o stabilizers for a day and even went on the highway and Jeep handled fine
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