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Aluminum V. Chromoly Steering

Hey guys, I bent my DOM RuffStuff tie rod out on the rocks a few weeks ago and I'm looking to upgrade.

My two choices are either the Synergy chromoly tie rod or the RPM Fab aluminum tie rod. What would y'all go with and why?
I already have the Synergy Drag Link and it's great, but I've also heard great things about the solid aluminum used in the RPM.

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I went with Fusion 4X4 steering , take a look .
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I went with Fusion 4X4 steering , take a look .
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I looked at the Fusion 4x4 but they are just too expensive. It's over $150 more than both of the other choices and I don't think I can justify spending that much more.

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If you are bending the ruff stuff then I doubt anything else is going to hold up. Al least some of the aluminum tie rods will spring back.

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Any benefit to an offset TRE vs. regular style? Is that just so there is no bend in the tierod?
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If you are bending the ruff stuff then I doubt anything else is going to hold up. Al least some of the aluminum tie rods will spring back.
Yeah, most of the people I talk to regarding aluminum tie rods really like them because of their ability to flex and not actually permanently bend. I'm just tired of replacing them lol

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I went with Fusion 4X4 steering , take a look .
They are a forum supporter also .
I looked at the Fusion 4x4 but they are just too expensive. It's over $150 more than both of the other choices and I don't think I can justify spending that much more.
Not trying to be a wise ass but does it get expensive to constantly replace new tie rods? If that’s the case what’s an extra $150? I know another ruff stuff tie rod. Maybe the ole “buy once cry once” saying should apply to you in this case
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Any benefit to an offset TRE vs. regular style? Is that just so there is no bend in the tierod?
Yeah , it moves the tie rod away from the diff cover a little more , and if you really look they are beef .

On mine another consideration was that the way it's configured it would help with the Howe Hydro asst. alignment .

It just seemed to be the right answer to many other issues that I had with the other products that are available , killed more
than one bird with just one stone .

Less pain , more gain .
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Not trying to be a wise ass but does it get expensive to constantly replace new tie rods? If thatís the case whatís an extra $150? I know another ruff stuff tie rod. Maybe the ole ďbuy once cry onceĒ saying should apply to you in this case
Yeah, you are correct. But I'm thinking that the RPM Fab will do the job just as good for 150 less.

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I’m running the RpmFab set up and I love it. I drive like an idiot and have bashed it into rocks multiple times with no issues.
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I broke a ruffstuff tre (1ton gm) and said I'd never run tres again and went with RK Tierod. All I know is I've picked my jeep up by that tierod and it's as straight as the day I got it.

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Yeah, you are correct. But I'm thinking that the RPM Fab will do the job just as good for 150 less.
FYI - Fusion4x4 provides a lifetime warranty. If you bend/break the TRE or aluminum rod, Dan will replace it for free. All you need to do is send a pic - at least what is what Dan told me a while back. Fusion4x4 also heat treats the TREs. The extra $150 might actually save you money in the long run.
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I looked at the Fusion 4x4 but they are just too expensive. It's over $150 more than both of the other choices and I don't think I can justify spending that much more.
Give the guy a shout. I have both the 2.5 ton tie rod and drag link from Fusion and didn't pay near what the "site price" was. It was in the $350-ish range each iirc.
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Aluminum is inherently not a strong or tough material. It takes considerably more material to make an aluminum bar as strong as a steel one, but it will never be as tough. This is why we don't make any aluminum products that will see heavy wheeling. Aluminum is light, but it will never hold up as well as steel. There are also some pretty critical differences in regard to fatigue. Choose the best material for the job.

We offer a lifetime warranty on our hard parts as well. Our Tie Rod is made from heat treated chromoly. The heat treating process gives the bar an "elastic" quality which allows it to spring back to shape after being deformed. Go ahead and run into whatever you can. It will come back straight every time. It also has a much smaller footprint than an aluminum bar of similar strength. If you're trying to avoid running your steering into rocks, you don't want the largest diameter bar you can bolt in.

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Fusion-4x4 for the win! Mine has some good rock rash and has stayed straight. I just ordered some Rancho knuckles to gain some clearance and will be picking up the matching drag link here soon. AND it just looks bad ass on the Jeep!


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We offer a lifetime warranty on our hard parts as well. Our Tie Rod is made from heat treated chromoly. The heat treating process gives the bar an "elastic" quality which allows it to spring back to shape after being deformed. Go ahead and run into whatever you can. It will come back straight every time.
So if I bend it, you will replace it? Including shipping?

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Iíll let @AllJumpStyle Chris answer your question about their policies but I can add to this thread that Synergy Mfg will work w/ itís customers as-weíll or better than any company Iíve dealt with, back the products , back the customer that bought the products & if determined it was a weakness or failure of their end, will havecya send it in & replace if not fixable. The tierod from Synergy Mfg I havecrun for 5 years just this weekend busted a limestone boulder I came down upon and it left residual rock embedded in the powder coat but full weight of a 4 for jk w winch etc falling from 5í didnít bend the chromo....they are very very strong and Iíve slid around on mine ...i wheeled w a TJ on D60s that was runnin a permanently bent aluminum TR this weekend, too. I think many of us have seen the Rock Krawler tierod both survive and fail . I saw a buddy have one of those ends break this year.
Iíve seen the Currie sold tierod ( not the new RP TRE Ďextremeí model,fwiw) snap an end at the threads before.
Iíve not seen a Synergy tierod bend , personally, tho anyhthing is possible.

So, survival of any type of tierod seems to be largely up to the rig, the driver and fate, imho. Fusion4x4 does have a great tierod . I also have looked at Carolina Metal Masters . I have told myself for five years that when the Synergy Mfg tierod gets bent, Iíll go aluminum but so far I canít seem to get to that critical Ď itís bentí point. I am not at all easy on it, either.

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Yes, if you manage to bend your tie rod through normal wheeling, we will replace it, including shipping.

We did this video for our current gen Ram tie rod, but the concept is the same for all of our tie rods.

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I have told myself for five years that when the Synergy Mfg tierod gets bent, Iíll go aluminum but so far I canít seem to get to that critical Ď itís bentí point. I am not at all easy on it, either.

I wouldn't consider going to an aluminum tie rod being an upgrade for the reasons I mentioned before. Heat treated chromoly will not fatigue like aluminum, so there is really no reason it should stop working if it is being used within its design constraints.

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I wouldn't consider going to an aluminum tie rod being an upgrade for the reasons I mentioned before. Heat treated chromoly will not fatigue like aluminum, so there is really no reason it should stop working if it is being used within its design constraints.
point taken & understood.
Honestly, I think it has more to do w/ my running the 3.8l hamster-wheel, Chris ; just hearing the word'aluminum' makes me feel there is a percentage of 1 horsepower that might be attained from weight-saving over steel, even if I know the pieces weigh pretty-much the same in either material, heh.
I understand heat treated chromoly's strength & characteristics VS the aluminums ; that's is why I am still runnin a Synergy Mfg tierod!!




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point taken & understood.
Honestly, I think it has more to do w/ my running the 3.8l hamster-wheel, Chris ; just hearing the word'aluminum' makes me feel there is a percentage of 1 horsepower that might be attained from weight-saving over steel, even if I know the pieces weigh pretty-much the same in either material, heh.
I understand heat treated chromoly's strength & characteristics VS the aluminums ; that's is why I am still runnin a Synergy Mfg tierod!!


Lol I love my Synergy stuff but I just HAD to try out the aluminum hahah. Running both technically though, Synergy DL and RPM TR
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