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Ok, I have a 2016 Jeep Unlimited with modified D44's (Sleeved, 4.88, c-gussets) running 37" tires. Currently I have a Metalcloak 4.5" lift kit with the original "short arms". My Jeep is 90% offroad and is not a daily driver and primarily used in SE rock crawling and mud (I hate mud and don't "Bog" it).

My question is I am about to upgrade to some long arms and have narrowed my choices down to two brands and wanted some real world honest opinions.

my choices are:

1.) Teraflex LCG arms
2.) Clayton Long Arms (Radius)

I have used the Teraflex LCG kit in the past on my 07 build (
) and was very happy with the ride quality and performance. My only complaint was the rear arms mounting point on the frame hangs really low and caught ledges, etc. Nemisis offroad makes a skid system to address this very issue.

Clayton Long arms I know nothing about and really don't hear much about this setup. I Know the XJ guys use it a lot and it seems very strong as it uses large square tubing. The rear arms seem to provide much better ground clearance over the Teraflex kit. I have mixed feelings about the radius setup in the front, I have heard it binds but is that really that big of an issue?

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I have run TF long arms for ten years now. Never had an issue. The Metal Cloak is a great kit as well. (Installed for a customer) but they don't offer a long arm kit.

Teraflex customer service has always treated me very well.

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I have run TF long arms for ten years now. Never had an issue. The Metal Cloak is a great kit as well. (Installed for a customer) but they don't offer a long arm kit.

Teraflex customer service has always treated me very well.

Just my opinion.
I appreciate the feedback! I enjoyed my teraflex a great deal on the 07 and it worked really, really good!

Metalcloak actually does offer a long arm kit now (they have two versions). The issue I have with the metalcloak is the rear is still just a short arm with some goofball drop bracket to try and achieve the same angles of a long arm. They offer a radius setup with the "lock-n-load" setup as well as an actual 4-link setup.

I like the front arms, but the rear is not something I am willing to run...

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I have run TF long arms for ten years now. Never had an issue. The Metal Cloak is a great kit as well. (Installed for a customer) but they don't offer a long arm kit.

Teraflex customer service has always treated me very well.

Just my opinion.
I just purchased the new Metalcloak front long arm kit. I'm going to just run the Metalcloak rear short arms for now; I didn't care for the big drop brackets either.

When I saw the Metalcloak radius arms, I immediately imagined mud and small rocks getting in those spring assemblies and quickly ruining them.

Definitely looking forward to replacing my old stock clevite bushings for the flexy Metalcloak.

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Update, it looks like Clayton now offers the duroflex joints in their arms. Well, thatís not what they call them but they look similar to MC

https://www.claytonoffroad.com/giiro_bushing


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I have been running the clayton 3.5 mid arm for 9 years now. I have only had to replace 2 JJ's in that whole time. All we have is rocks here. There stuff is stout to say the least.


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Have you looked at the synergy set up ?

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Nobody really makes a great long arm. You are best to just buy the brackets you need and build your own. The teraflex uses a short upper arm that is going to create pinion angle issues pushing the pinion down as you droop. Most front long arms are only a little longer then factory because of limited bracket placement room with the exhaust and the bend in the frame sections.

The metal Cloak long arm front uses the lock and load (we will be installing one of these on an LJ in a month or so) that has an upper link that can be unlocked so it flexes and eliminates the binding issues from the radial design. Bind is also going to depend on the amount of shock travel and up/down ratio.

If you are looking at increasing the off road capability of your jeep for the trails you are running I doubt you are going to be happy with a kit as most will not change the location of the axle brackets and tend to hang the lowers down where they catch on rocks. You could simply do some new brackets and increase your clearance with the metal cloak arms you have or build new arms an use the metal cloak joint you already have in the new arms.

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