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post #1 of 45 Old 09-13-2010, 07:30 AM Thread Starter
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Tires that can also handle snow??

Ok so I am looking to upgrade from the stock tires and have been looking at BFG KM2's and Nitto Trail Grapplers but I have heard some not so good things about their performance in snow (at least the KM2's).

I live in the northeast and dont really want to trade out my tires for summer wheeling/driving to winter wheeling/driving. Any suggestions??

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Goodyear Duratrac

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and really.. how much snow do you get???


I have Goodyear MT/R's.. good in snow, bad on ice.. and it doesnt really matter for the few hours ice is on the street

no jeep here...
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To be fair its not like I live out west and get dumped on with snow but I would like my new tires to handle at least as well if not better than the stock ones when we do get some snowfall. There have been several days since I got the jeep that I have helped out friends/complete strangers when they get stuck in the snow and would like something that wont suck, get packed with snow and have me sliding all around.

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I live in UT, my house is in the foothills at 6000 ft elevation, and the mountain in my back yard is 10,000 ft elevation, so I see some snow in the winter. In the 35 years I've been driving the all time best snow tires I've used have been Dick Cepek Fun Country radials. They were a set of 38x15.50R-16.5s on an F350 truck. In deep deep snow that truck was unstopable with those tires on it. The tread pattern is based off of the old Armstrong Tru Track, from way back in the 1970s, and it just plain works well in snow. I've used most of the newer tires from BFG and Goodyear (including Duratracs). The Duratracs are more popular, but the Cepeks work better.

I just bought new tires for my JK, and with it being mid September, and winter up on the mountain being just a few weeks away, I bought tires to use in snow. I bought another set of Dick Cepek Fun Country radials. Here's a pic on the JK.


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My club does lots of snow runs. Here is what I have found;

The KM2 is quite possibly the worst tire in the snow I have ever used. A bald set of K-Mart tires would probably do better. My Mickey Thompson MTZs were also not that great in snow, but slightly better than the KM2.

On the Other end of the spectrum, My Swamper Iroks are flat-out the best tires I have ever used in snow, but lack the qualities of a good street tire.

Now people who don't wheel hard year round and daily drive in areas with a lot of snow tend to gravitate toward the Duratracs or the BFG ATs here in California (Cali has the best snow outside of Utah). Those tires seem to do very well on snow and ice and will be decent on the trail/street for the rest of the year.
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snow and wheeling tire? If I only ran one set, BFG AT's. They do great! But if you wheel thick mud often or loose trails, the AT's are OK, but not a substitute for a good MT tire. I run the BFG AT's in the winter and have had great luck with them.

...also a set of chains to keep on hand aren;t a bad idea if you do plan to get into ice or snow wheeling. Quite a few of the guys that I know here in CO/ do their share of Mtn driving and have chains with them.

you could always lightly sipe teh inner lugs of teh tire, but if you do wheel them and sipe to deep, you're going to chunk the lugs.

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Wrangler Duratrac's!!!! Best Tire for snow and mud in one package. JMO.
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the KM2's on my buddy's 4 door seemed to be ok in that 2.5' dump we had last year... the BFG AT's on my grand were pretty much useless...

now you guys have me worried about my wife and her km2's lol

31 jeeps in... still have issues
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Duratracs for sure.

Snow and Ice are two different things. . . lots of great mud tires can bomb around in nice fresh snow, but suck on ice because the lugs are huge with no siping and are like driving around on hockey pucks. Duratracs kick ass. They are winter rated, they are great on rocks, mud (I have never been stuck in mud wheeling with my buddies who all have KM2s), and they are great on ice eh (I had to throw the eh in, being from Canada and all)
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I had Bridgestone Blizzak on my Cherokee and I've never seen such good snow and ice tires.
You can even stud them.
They totally stick to the ice. First time you really try them you just cannot believe it.
Costs $$ but really worth it.
Too bad they dont do them in 37" r17...
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snow and wheeling tire? If I only ran one set, BFG AT's. They do great! But if you wheel thick mud often or loose trails, the AT's are OK, but not a substitute for a good MT tire. I run the BFG AT's in the winter and have had great luck with them.

...also a set of chains to keep on hand aren;t a bad idea if you do plan to get into ice or snow wheeling. Quite a few of the guys that I know here in CO/ do their share of Mtn driving and have chains with them.

you could always lightly sipe teh inner lugs of teh tire, but if you do wheel them and sipe to deep, you're going to chunk the lugs.
I've run through heavy wet snow up to the front bumper with Bfg AT's in my YJ with no lockers. They never let me down except in mud. From what I hear the durtracs are better though.
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Duratracs would be a great choice for an all year/ all around tire.. Do very well in mud, snow, rain and dry pavement... I love mine. Check www.treadlightly.org they had a $100 rebate you could use in addition to the GY rebate. Not sure if it's still going on or not tho...

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i posted these in my km2 thread, but i've never heard a bad thing about them



ratings are all super high...

31 jeeps in... still have issues
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I have nothing but good things to say about the Cooper Discoverer S/Ts I 've been running. Thay have done great in the rain, snow, mud and on the trail. I ran the BFG ATs on two vehicles and really dislike them(bought a set for my Dakota and they were on my YJ when I bought it). They where terrible in mud and heavy wet snow, they had trouble gripping wet pavement and in heavy rain they hydroplaned really easily.

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Most tires discussed here may be good in snow/ice/winter, but most are not Winter legal (for those with Winter tire laws)...
Just saying...
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i posted these in my km2 thread, but i've never heard a bad thing about them



ratings are all super high...
They dont have any good sizes for a 17" wheel.
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Most tires discussed here may be good in snow/ice/winter, but most are not Winter legal (for those with Winter tire laws)...
Just saying...
in communist canada, tires buy you

31 jeeps in... still have issues
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They dont have any good sizes for a 17" wheel.
315/70R17
Blackwall Serv. Desc: 121/118Q
Load Range D Price: $200.00 (each)
Estimated Availability: In Stock


35X12.5R17
Blackwall Serv. Desc: 124Q
Load Range E Price: $226.00 (each)
Estimated Availability: In Stock


if you want 38's you need 18's, 37's are only for 20's?


those are wholesale prices btw, but compared to KM2's

315/75R16
Raised White Letters Serv. Desc: 121Q
Load Range D Price: $244.00 (each)
Estimated Availability: In Stock


35X12.5R17
Raised White Letters Serv. Desc: 119Q
Load Range D Price: $266.00 (each)
Estimated Availability: In Stock

31 jeeps in... still have issues
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in communist canada, tires buy you
What?
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What?
oh sorry

dans le Canada communiste, les pneus vous achètent

31 jeeps in... still have issues
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oh sorry

dans le Canada communiste, les pneus vous achètent
Sorry man I still dont get it...

Les pneus achètent quoi ou qui??

As in "The government fucks you", but applied to tires???
The tires buy you...
??

Coffee refill time I guess...
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315/70R17
Blackwall Serv. Desc: 121/118Q
Load Range D Price: $200.00 (each)
Estimated Availability: In Stock


35X12.5R17
Blackwall Serv. Desc: 124Q
Load Range E Price: $226.00 (each)
Estimated Availability: In Stock


if you want 38's you need 18's, 37's are only for 20's?


those are wholesale prices btw, but compared to KM2's

315/75R16
Raised White Letters Serv. Desc: 121Q
Load Range D Price: $244.00 (each)
Estimated Availability: In Stock


35X12.5R17
Raised White Letters Serv. Desc: 119Q
Load Range D Price: $266.00 (each)
Estimated Availability: In Stock

Yeah, I meant I want 37s for 17s.
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Sorry man I still dont get it...

Les pneus achètent quoi ou qui??

As in "The government fucks you", but applied to tires???
The tires buy you...
??

Coffee refill time I guess...
Damn, freetranslation.com let me down lol it's just me being silly about the gov't telling you what type of tires you have to have.

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Yeah, I meant I want 37s for 17s.
ya, not a lot of options there...

31 jeeps in... still have issues
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Damn, freetranslation.com let me down lol it's just me being silly about the gov't telling you what type of tires you have to have.
Ah...

Yeah, since last winter we must have Winter tires from nov to march now...

Until 2014 we can keep our LT for winter, but starting nov 2014 we must have the snowflake tires...

Imagine how much costs a 37" snowflake tire...
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