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Driving without a Steering stabilizer/dampner?

My stock steering stabilizer is bent badly and it was leaking oil. It stopped leaking and I suspect because there is no more oil to leak out. Can I just pull this off and not replace it? It seems to drive fine now with no oil and I havent noticed any real problems. R these things really necessary?
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My stock steering stabilizer is bent badly and it was leaking oil. It stopped leaking and I suspect because there is no more oil to leak out. Can I just pull this off and not replace it? It seems to drive fine now with no oil and I havent noticed any real problems. R these things really necessary?
Get rid of it.
I drove my JK, with proper steering geometry and 40" tires, to Moab twice without any damper. Never had a problem.
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Have driven mine with no stabilizer since I put my lift on in the spring. Its my DD and I have had zero issues with my steering. I think I read somewhere that in some states it is an inspection issue though.

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i bent mine the first time i went offroad. Drove it for a month on-and-off road until I got a new shock and the Poly relocation bracket. Didn't notice any difference with it on or off.

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Threads like this always gets me confused... some threads say this steering stabilzer is better than the other, then some will say to relocate it up and away, then of course the overkill dual stabilizer kits.... then blam-o....a thread saying its not worth it.
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Threads like this always gets me confused... some threads say this steering stabilzer is better than the other, then some will say to relocate it up and away, then of course the overkill dual stabilizer kits.... then blam-o....a thread saying its not worth it.
BINGO! I had the dual kit and it totally screwed up my tie rod and jammed up on me on the trail. It has since found it's way to the shop boneyard along with Dr. Dirty's!


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correct alignment and a SS is not needed. it just helps dampen bump steer.

SS will mask death wobble until it fails though. some people think it fixes it and that is incorrect


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correct alignment and a SS is not needed. it just helps dampen bump steer.

SS will mask death wobble until it fails though. some people think it fixes it and that is incorrect
Bingo! If the stars are in alignment, you don't need it. But if one thing is out of place, you'll wish you did.

With time as parts wear, you'll meet the wonderment of "death wobble". I met the wonderful experience in my Ram 2500 diesel mid turn at 50mph. It was violent and even spooked me. (I used to race motorcycles back in the day on GP courses) Nothing I could do except let off the gas and slow down until it recovered. I started to touch the brakes, but that only aggravated the situation. I drove my truck the 3 miles back home (under 40mph!) and parked it. Walked inside and ordered a new trackbar, rod ends, and damper. I'll leave mine on as a safety net. As I never wanna experience that again.

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correct alignment and a SS is not needed. it just helps dampen bump steer.
X2 However, a steering dampener will help if you have a blow out, have to swerve suddenly, run over something, etc.
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Threads like this always gets me confused... some threads say this steering stabilzer is better than the other, then some will say to relocate it up and away, then of course the overkill dual stabilizer kits.... then blam-o....a thread saying its not worth it.
I think we need an industry expert to tell us if it is a "steering dampener" or "steering stabilizer". Then we can have 12 posts that dampeners is correct, another 8 post that stabilizer is correct, 14 post that it doesn't matter, 11 posts that the thread is off topic, 6 posts that the industry expert is wrong, 2 posts from other industry experts disagreeing on terminology, 17 posts explaining how to change a dampener, 5 posts disagreeing with them, 22 posts about which dampener is best, and 3 posts asking for this topic to be moved, etc, etc
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I'm sure the steering box appreciates it being there.
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I think we need an industry expert to tell us if it is a "steering dampener" or "steering stabilizer". Then we can have 12 posts that dampeners is correct, another 8 post that stabilizer is correct, 14 post that it doesn't matter, 11 posts that the thread is off topic, 6 posts that the industry expert is wrong, 2 posts from other industry experts disagreeing on terminology, 17 posts explaining how to change a dampener, 5 posts disagreeing with them, 22 posts about which dampener is best, and 3 posts asking for this topic to be moved, etc, etc
and one post that says "I've got one for sale if anybody needs it" and another that says "dude sweet differential cover, what brand is that?"

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and one post that says "I've got one for sale if anybody needs it" and another that says "dude sweet differential cover, what brand is that?"
You've see this thread before?
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I think we need an industry expert to tell us if it is a "steering dampener" or "steering stabilizer". Then we can have 12 posts that dampeners is correct, another 8 post that stabilizer is correct, 14 post that it doesn't matter, 11 posts that the thread is off topic, 6 posts that the industry expert is wrong, 2 posts from other industry experts disagreeing on terminology, 17 posts explaining how to change a dampener, 5 posts disagreeing with them, 22 posts about which dampener is best, and 3 posts asking for this topic to be moved, etc, etc
So, what exactly are you trying to say?
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Bingo! If the stars are in alignment, you don't need it. But if one thing is out of place, you'll wish you did.

With time as parts wear, you'll meet the wonderment of "death wobble". I met the wonderful experience in my Ram 2500 diesel mid turn at 50mph. It was violent and even spooked me. (I used to race motorcycles back in the day on GP courses) Nothing I could do except let off the gas and slow down until it recovered. I started to touch the brakes, but that only aggravated the situation. I drove my truck the 3 miles back home (under 40mph!) and parked it. Walked inside and ordered a new trackbar, rod ends, and damper. I'll leave mine on as a safety net. As I never wanna experience that again.
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Thanks for the all the advice guys. Seems like consensus is that as long as everything is ok, it is not needed. I think I am going to pull it off when I get a chance since I think it is out of oil and not doing anything. If I get money that is not needed elsewhere or have problems I will replace it. this is actually my 2nd one, the dealer repalced the first two weeks after I bought jeep becasue I mangled it. A month later the new one was leaking all over the driveway with a large dent in the bottom of it. Jeep really needs to put this in a better spot.
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Thanks for the all the advice guys. Seems like consensus is that as long as everything is ok, it is not needed. I think I am going to pull it off when I get a chance since I think it is out of oil and not doing anything. If I get money that is not needed elsewhere or have problems I will replace it. this is actually my 2nd one, the dealer repalced the first two weeks after I bought jeep becasue I mangled it. A month later the new one was leaking all over the driveway with a large dent in the bottom of it. Jeep really needs to put this in a better spot.
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A Steering Stabilizer will NOT control bump steer, neither will it control vibrations (s.a DW) because of worn out components ( ball joints, track bar etc...)
A SS is a simple shock absorber for your steering... Tire vibrations and road feedback because of the pneumatic trail/dynamic contact patch will be absorbed and dampened.(This is the start of DW and will become uncontrollable once worn and/or loose components are existing.)
The mentioned road feedback is more pronounced with larger tires, lifts and excessive caster..
That is why I have a HD SS..
I think that sums it up.
Like said above, "you can drive without it". Do you want to once you have larger tires?


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