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PHASE 4 BUILD THREAD-

Switched from the 35" x 12.50 r17 (actual height = 33 3/4") BFG KM2's, to 37" x 12.50 r17 (actual height = 36 7/8") MTR Kevlars.

The KM2 was likely worn down from about 34", and the 37's are only aired up to 32 lbs, so depending on rim width and pressure, they may in some scenarios be a true 37".

The ride is amazing on road. Didn't take much weight to balance. Surprisingly quieter than my smaller KM2's. Haven't had them off road yet due to the need to trim the pinch-seams and rock-rails.

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Hey looks good man!!
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Nice, I have the same tires on order.
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The size difference in those photo is almost none (i realize the air and weight part). The MTR's are really nice compared to KM2's. Mine had almost no weights on 3 of the 5 tires! Very quiet on road. Very grippy of road.

Any desires yet to regrear?

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The size difference in those photo is almost none (i realize the air and weight part). The MTR's are really nice compared to KM2's. Mine had almost no weights on 3 of the 5 tires! Very quiet on road. Very grippy of road.

Any desires yet to regrear?
Well the difference was 2 1/8". Enough for me to certainly be happy with the choice.

I'm re-gearing next week to 5:13's. I'm happy with that choice with a 2 door & manual transmission. I am surprised that the current 4:88's don't feel too bad on the street. Backing up an incline, I had to rev a little more than normal, but they have been fine around town. I could have gone to 5:38's, but with the manual, I'm sure the 5:13's will be fine.

We will be replacing the shocks and springs with Poly Performance Synergy shocks and progressive-rate 4.0's.

We will pull the front axle and do an outer Poly Performance sleeve and truss, new shock mounts, change to a 3-link set up, possibly extended the bump-stops (we'll see), replace the upper control-arm bushings, install bar-pin eliminators in the rear, trim the rear pinch-seam and rock rail, add a rebuilt PSC steering box, add a EVO sector-shaft brace, and possibly put in an Or-Fab sport cage.

*ALASHA- You are going to love these tires.

Thanks Zack. Just trying to keep up ya' know....

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Well the difference was 2 1/8". Enough for me to certainly be happy with the choice.

I'm re-gearing next week to 5:13's. I'm happy with that choice with a 2 door & manual transmission. I am surprised that the current 4:88's don't feel too bad on the street. Backing up an incline, I had to rev a little more than normal, but they have been fine around town. I could have gone to 5:38's, but with the manual, I'm sure the 5:13's will be fine.

We will be replacing the shocks and springs with Poly Performance Synergy shocks and progressive-rate 4.0's.

We will pull the front axle and do an outer Poly Performance sleeve and truss, new shock mounts, change to a 3-link set up, possibly extended the bump-stops (we'll see), replace the upper control-arm bushings, install bar-pin eliminators in the rear, trim the rear pinch-seam and rock rail, add a rebuilt PSC steering box, add a EVO sector-shaft brace, and possibly put in an Or-Fab sport cage.

*ALASHA- You are going to love these tires.

Thanks Zack. Just trying to keep up ya' know....
What you mean keep up??? Why not just wait up. Your out running me!! What you want for those 4:88's???? Pm me if you want to sell them.

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What you mean keep up??? Why not just wait up. Your out running me!! What you want for those 4:88's???? Pm me if you want to sell them.
You're crazier than me! (at least till next month when the JK's paid off )

I can't hardly wait for the phase 5 build- LS1, coilovers, RockKrawler Triple Threat, chromo shafts/ 35 spline or RCV's, 5;38's, 38's, 1350's, River Raider corners & flares, suspension seats, all new axle brackets, s t r e t c h e d, etc.....

Thanks Zack. The gears have really low miles, not many trail miles- and the mesh was dead-nuts. I'll let 'em go cheap. They should be avail next week or the following week.

I'll either be at Trees or K2 the last weekend of Sept. maybe you can get 'em then.

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You're crazier than me! (at least till next month when the JK's paid off )

I can't hardly wait for the phase 5 build- LS1, coilovers, RockKrawler Triple Threat, chromo shafts/ 35 spline or RCV's, 5;38's, 38's, 1350's, River Raider corners & flares, suspension seats, all new axle brackets, s t r e t c h e d, etc.....

Thanks Zack. The gears have really low miles, not many trail miles- and the mesh was dead-nuts. I'll let 'em go cheap. They should be avail next week or the following week.

I'll either be at Trees or K2 the last weekend of Sept. maybe you can get 'em then.
Cool, mine will be paid off in March. Then watch out!! I want the gears but dont know if I can make a run this month. Pm me a price and I will set back the money, and come see ya! Either that or maybe get ya to ship them. Cheers and congrats on all the cool new upgrades, oh and new truck too!!
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Stu - that thing looks sick on 37s"! I'll be interested on a long term report on the MTRs. You've got some cool mods planned. And dang, you guys with almost paid off JKs! I have almost 2 years to go on my note. I'm doing the River Raider cage in a few weeks

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Stu - that thing looks sick on 37s"! I'll be interested on a long term report on the MTRs. You've got some cool mods planned. And dang, you guys with almost paid off JKs! I have almost 2 years to go on my note. I'm doing the River Raider cage in a few weeks
Thanks.

I would so much rather have the RR cage, but going to have to go with the Or-Fab for now. Oh and my JK told me that it felt tiny sitting next to yours....so I HAD to do the 37's.

Hey- I paid a lot down on my JK, so that's why I had low payments and was able to kill the note off pretty quick.

If you can, maybe do a write-up on the RR install. Not sure I have seen a write-up on the 2 dr.

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Nice upgrade.

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If you can, maybe do a write-up on the RR install. Not sure I have seen a write-up on the 2 dr.
Yeah I'm gonna do a real detailed photo shoot of the install. I'm gonna get advice from Joe (bodyguy) about painting it. Powder coat pre install then touch up welds or install then shoot it.

I picked RR mostley because it messes up the interior the least. I'm doing K2 at the end of the month - hope to see you there.

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[QUOTE=TEXASKEV;525602] And dang, you guys with almost paid off JKs! I have almost 2 years to go on my note./QUOTE]

Man I have been throwing about $700 a month to my jeep payment trying to get it paid off!! I Hate paying on anything very long!!


Stub if you do decide to sell me the gears, then take your time I am in no hurry and can wait for them.. Thanks Bro!
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And dang, you guys with almost paid off JKs! I have almost 2 years to go on my note./QUOTE]

Man I have been throwing about $700 a month to my jeep payment trying to get it paid off!! I Hate paying on anything very long!!


Stub if you do decide to sell me the gears, then take your time I am in no hurry and can wait for them.. Thanks Bro!
That's fine. I'll keep 'em oiled up and seal 'em in a plastic box so they don't rust.

.....oh, and $153 a month.
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Looks nice! I like seeing all the MTRs floating around. They will get a little noisier but they aren't bad.

What are you doing with those 35s?


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That's fine. I'll keep 'em oiled up and seal 'em in a plastic box so they don't rust.

.....oh, and $153 a month.
For the GEARS??? Just kidding Dang a good low payment. I have just been throwing extra at mine.

Got to hit the hay,,,Pm me when you decide Stub. I have the money but just am in no hurry, so don't rush on your part.
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Looks nice! I like seeing all the MTRs floating around. They will get a little noisier but they aren't bad.

What are you doing with those 35s?
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Joe said he might want the 35's for a future project- but not sure. If he doesn't take them, I'm going to let them go cheap. You're welcome to them if he doesn't take them.

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Joe said he might want the 35's for a future project- but not sure. If he doesn't take them, I'm going to let them go cheap. You're welcome to them if he doesn't take them.
No worries my man! Let me know on the tires when you know more. I'm excited about your build!


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I really like the look with the 37s. I am undecided about my next tire size, 37, 39.5 or 40? 39.5 and 40 scare me, I'm going to break more things. I do plan to finallly regear to 5.38, gusset, sleeve and shaft my D44s before going any larger.
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I really like the look with the 37s. I am undecided about my next tire size, 37, 39.5 or 40? 39.5 and 40 scare me, I'm going to break more things. I do plan to finallly regear to 5.38, gusset, sleeve and shaft my D44s before going any larger.
Thanks. It's a good look I think.

Even with 37's, we are going to have to pull the axle- sleeve it and add some other reinforcements. I am going with a truss too- because I saw a JK with inner and outer sleeves, that was starting to crack at the differential.

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looks great man, as soon as I get my rims paid off, I will be going with the MTR 35X16's. How r things? I drove by the other day, but your jeep was tucked away in the garage so I figured you were sleeping or something and didn't wanna bother you.

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looks great man, as soon as I get my rims paid off, I will be going with the MTR 35X16's. How r things? I drove by the other day, but your jeep was tucked away in the garage so I figured you were sleeping or something and didn't wanna bother you.
Shoulda stopped. Never too busy to catch-up.
All is well. Gonna pick up a Ruger 454 tomorrow and some Supreme Elite bonded rounds. Need to hit the range.

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Stub, that is awesome and looks great! And definitely need to take pictures as you go through your stage 4 build!!

By the way, I will have 35x12.5x16 MTR/Ks and new wheels on our Jeep next week as well!!!
We'll hopefully get some pics on this build. Thanks.

*Y'all are really going to love these tires I think. Can't wait to get them on the rocks end of this month, So far, the street manners are better than the KM2's. Due to the design, I think they will offer better grip off road- larger voids, but stills feels like a very non-aggressive tire on the street. Very glad that I didn't go with the IROK's or Krawlers.

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454 Casull??? Whew, last I talked to you, you were worried about recoil with the .357 We need to hit the range when you get it. I went out today and put some rounds into some paper, good time.

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454 Casull??? Whew, last I talked to you, you were worried about recoil with the .357 We need to hit the range when you get it. I went out today and put some rounds into some paper, good time.
LOL- Yea. Well this is a heavy gun- 7 1/2" barrel. It was between that and a Judge. I am guessing I can get used to this thing. It really feels nice.
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Nice!!! I like the 37's better on your rig. Fills it out nicely.

And I just posted a thread about MT/Rs. Too funny... How do you have yours mounted?

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