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Is anyone running the BDS long arm set up or has seen it in person?
(I did a search with no results )
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I have driven one. The brackets hang low, bad suspension geometry in the rear. They have dual steering stabilizers though!! I'm still contemplating on upgrading to long arm and have considered every kit, driven most. RK and Poly are on top.
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RK is my top choice as well but I am really stubborn and like having a 4 link design. I know people will argue that its not the best design for a JK and all but thats me and its my money.

RK can you make me a 4 link rear?
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...Poly are on top.
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A friend of mine runs the 6.5" long arm on his unlimited. It sees only trail use and gets beat on pretty good. Works pretty well on the trails but seems to go through upper control arm bushings pretty fast and he's had both rear springs replaced. Real nice on the road also. Hope that helps.

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I run the teraflex long arm and love it. Rides and handles great.

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Sorry bud. We do the Triple Threat with the 4 link front, but we will not do a full 4 link rear with track bar. With the rear uppers outboard of the frame it just causes too many issues for what we like. We will be offering our DIY triangulated 4 link rear if you feel like moving your gas tank however.

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A friend of mine runs the 6.5" long arm on his unlimited. It sees only trail use and gets beat on pretty good. Works pretty well on the trails but seems to go through upper control arm bushings pretty fast and he's had both rear springs replaced. Real nice on the road also. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the feedback. Do the brackets really hang low like fire mentioned?
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I run the teraflex long arm and love it. Rides and handles great.
I was a big fan of the Teraflex long arm for a while (and sort of probably still am) but now I have seen 2 major failures of the frame where the rear mounts are welded. That is a design issue and I dont want to spend my hard earned $$ on something that could potentially fail big time.
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Sorry bud. We do the Triple Threat with the 4 link front, but we will not do a full 4 link rear with track bar. With the rear uppers outboard of the frame it just causes too many issues for what we like. We will be offering our DIY triangulated 4 link rear if you feel like moving your gas tank however.

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Jeremy,

I am going to meet up with Pete Bach some time this weekend to take a closer look at your suspension in person.

Do you need a guinea pig for a triangulated 4 link on a 4 door?
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Here is the best bds picture of the brackets that I can find.

compared to a RK setup

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Thank you for the pics. I see a huge different in the front. The rear brackets look about the same to me.
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Another look at just the rear brackets
BDS

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BDS hangs about 1.5 inches lower
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I stand corrected. Thank you for the help
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The rear instant centers are dramatically different between our products and theirs.

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I see u r going to take a look at the RK now. If you want pure indestructible beef its the only way to go. Plus the ride is awesome and the system has amazing flex.if you are going to do the install yourself just make sure you have a buddy to help and have a full 2 days to dedicate to the install. I think we had about 20 hours + in the install

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Jeremy,

I am going to meet up with Pete Bach some time this weekend to take a closer look at your suspension in person.

Do you need a guinea pig for a triangulated 4 link on a 4 door?
Go look at mine. It's at Avenger. Same setup but with a stretch. 3-Link is the way to go!
The instant centers on the BDS are completely fawked up. I'm quite confident that we can get you a VIP deal on an RK System.
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Go look at mine. It's at Avenger. Same setup but with a stretch. 3-Link is the way to go!
The instant centers on the BDS are completely fawked up. I'm quite confident that we can get you a VIP deal on an RK System.
I sneaked a peak at Avenger on Friday.

I am no suspension guru but I can visualize how you have ~1.5 inches in the rear between the bumpstops and the axle and still rubbed the top of that fender support.

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Are you running 5.13 or 5.38 because I am super confused as to how you baselined higher than my baseline?
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Bro, your rig is sick! Very well done, and I can appreciate a black, 4-door build...

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[QUOTE=Fire;524913...and Poly are on top.[/QUOTE]

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I sneaked a peak at Avenger on Friday.

I am no suspension guru but I can visualize how you have ~1.5 inches in the rear between the bumpstops and the axle and still rubbed the top of that fender support.

P.S.
Are you running 5.13 or 5.38 because I am super confused as to how you baselined higher than my baseline?
Those rear bumpstops squish down to nearly flat. They are like poor-man's air bumps. AKA Dodge Ram bumpers.
My tires just barely graze that support when the bumps are fully compressed, and the top of the tires are about 3/4" from the fender... so it all works quite nicely.


I'm running 5.13's, but mine has always felt more peppy than most others that I have driven.
I'm not really sure why. But that's funny, since you are running stock wheels/tires and I'm running 155lb 41" wheels/tires.
Maybe the intake and exhaust combination? Nothing fancy or expensive there but it seems to work.
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Thanks for the closeups of the poly rear arm bracket. I dont see much improvement over the BDS as far as the brackets hanging low BUT your suspension geometry looks much better. After I get new tires(iroks are almost bald) I'll be in the market once my jeep junk fund recovers.
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