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Metalcloak long arm

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Combo front LA with Lock & load front. Rear drop bracket and standard arms.
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post #2 of 39 Old 05-24-2017, 03:37 PM
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Metalcloak long arm

Finally it is happening. I can wait to see it in person. Definitely going on my list for a lift....


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It is happening. They are being released Friday according the the Facebook live video that was released by Matson.

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I did find it interesting there is no rear long arms, but it makes sense the way Matson explains it. Honestly think this will be a home run.


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Hahahaha.....So now they suddenly think a long arm is needed!! After all that talk about not needing them....Kinda like WOL and axle trusses. Only 3 years late....I built my custom long arm with MetalCloak joints that long ago!! I'm not a fan of radius arms.... I'm thinking their just trying to stay ahead and make more money(what company wouldn't run that way) Great for them!! I'm set with my arms and Synergy brackets.

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Haha I've been debating putting those rear drop brackets on mine for awhile to help with anti squat but I'm hesitant on the loss of clearance.

What is the front supposed to help with?

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Hahahaha.....So now they suddenly think a long arm is needed!! After all that talk about not needing them....Kinda like WOL and axle trusses. Only 3 years late....I built my custom long arm with MetalCloak joints that long ago!! I'm not a fan of radius arms.... I'm thinking their just trying to stay ahead and make more money(what company wouldn't run that way) Great for them!! I'm set with my arms and Synergy brackets.


I'm pretty sure they said this was for the higher riding lifts such as the 4.5" and 5.5". Matson said it is not needed for the 3.5 and under and they will not sell them for this. And if you look...still got short arms in the rear.



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What is the front supposed to help with?

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This will help with the way the axle travels on the higher lifts.



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Yea MC is saying 4.5+, i dont see a reason why not 3.5 unless the rear drop brackets have something to do with it.


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Its about time! Like others I got tired of waiting and put my on hybrid system together. Built some rear LA lowers with 2" DOM and MC ends. Used a RK upper for the 3 link system. For the front I also went with a LA radius arm, but its made by TNT and 4.5" MC coils... NO bending issues!

Doing a LA this way was cheaper for sure, since I was basically stepping up from a 3.5 MC short arm kit w/ RK 3 link rear. Scored 860 on their trailer before, haven't had it on the trailer since the changes.

It rode great before, it rides like a CADILLAC NOW on and off road!

Did MC not post a score of that new kit??? That has me thinking rather its actually that much of an improvement over their 3.5 gamechanger......
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I'm confused why they would have 12" travel rocksport shocks on. Why wouldn't they want to have their 15" travel 6 packs on since it's their first "release" video.... stupid.


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Ha! Thank you to the OP for the thread and for all the great comments.

Just a few things to note... the vid we did was rather spontaneous, we were checking the new prototype longer RockSports and seeing how much additional flex we got with that set-up.

Usually we don't do release videos like that, but I thought - lets have some fun. Love the response so far.

There have been many questions about Long Arm vs Mid Arm. And it comes down to what you want for your rig. Our Game-Changer 4.5" and 5.5" kits are still the best bang for the buck requiring the least amount of effort to install.

But, some customer have asked and asked and asked for a Long Arm, especially after we came out with the Lock-N-Load Radius Arm system for the TJ/LJ and put a prototype on Cloak3 a couple years ago to make room for the LS3.

We are launching the Bolt-On Radius Arm system tomorrow and, next week, we will be launching the Weld-On 4-Link version. Both use our Compound Systems that includes the DB3 Drop Bracket in the rear.

Just a couple more options for our customers.

Appreciate the continued feedback!
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https://www.facebook.com/metalcloak/...5358497779712/


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I thought their joints were not designed for a long arm set up?

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Did they say that ?


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No, but you basically did in my end review thread.

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Ha! Thank you to the OP for the thread and for all the great comments.

Just a few things to note... the vid we did was rather spontaneous, we were checking the new prototype longer RockSports and seeing how much additional flex we got with that set-up.

Usually we don't do release videos like that, but I thought - lets have some fun. Love the response so far.

There have been many questions about Long Arm vs Mid Arm. And it comes down to what you want for your rig. Our Game-Changer 4.5" and 5.5" kits are still the best bang for the buck requiring the least amount of effort to install.

But, some customer have asked and asked and asked for a Long Arm, especially after we came out with the Lock-N-Load Radius Arm system for the TJ/LJ and put a prototype on Cloak3 a couple years ago to make room for the LS3.

We are launching the Bolt-On Radius Arm system tomorrow and, next week, we will be launching the Weld-On 4-Link version. Both use our Compound Systems that includes the DB3 Drop Bracket in the rear.

Just a couple more options for our customers.

Appreciate the continued feedback!
What if I already have a full set of your arms and a set of shocks/springs that I am happy with. What is the upgrade path?
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No, but you basically did in my end review thread.

I forget honestly but thought it had to do with mixing joints not with a LA itself. Whatever i said came from MC.


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What if I already have a full set of your arms and a set of shocks/springs that I am happy with. What is the upgrade path?


If you're happy with what you have than what is an "upgrade path" needed for?


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I don't really get why this is a thing... if you argue that a rear long arm is unnecessary, why is a front long arm radius arm necessary or at all a good solution? The front stock short arms are quite a bit longer than the rear, if anything the rear needs a long arm more than the front. If the rear is supposed to make sense, then why not just use drop brackets in the front too, and keep a 5-link? Radius arm is worse geometry plus lacks the redundancy of a stock 5-link.

Not saying this product is "bad", I just don't really understand the point... ?
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I don't really get why this is a thing... if you argue that a rear long arm is unnecessary, why is a front long arm radius arm necessary or at all a good solution? The front stock short arms are quite a bit longer than the rear, if anything the rear needs a long arm more than the front. If the rear is supposed to make sense, then why not just use drop brackets in the front too, and keep a 5-link? Radius arm is worse geometry plus lacks the redundancy of a stock 5-link.

Not saying this product is "bad", I just don't really understand the point... ?
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Give the stupid customer what they want.

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Seems hokey. But people will jump all over it. Meanwhile I'm over here still happy with my OME springs and slightly longer than stock arms.
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If you're happy with what you have than what is an "upgrade path" needed for?
Yeah, it's working. The OME shocks and softer linear springs seem to flex well. I am asking more out of pure curiosity since I have their newer arms with the forged ends. No more budget for control arms. Next up for me is at least a front axle housing.
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