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coilover valving

Looking at putting coilovers in the front of my jkur. Was looking on a site that sells king coilovers, going thru the options I noticed they had a valving section. One for mud, rock, desert, heavy duty, ect. So I guess my question if you rock crawl and drive forest service roads at a decent speed what type of valving woukd you use the rock crawl or dessert valving ? Or how is the ride with these different valving

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'desert' would describe driving sand whoops at 60mph+, so not that.

Ultimately, this selection just guides a very rough approximation. If you really want to get the most out of your coilovers, you'll have to experimentally tune them to what you want them to do.
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Best thing you can do is call and talk to them. Or give Ryan at TRD a call.

You want someone that knows what they're doing to get you in the ballpark to begin with. Then you're either going to learn how to dial them in yourself, or pay for tuning sessions.

Checking a box on a website doesn't even begin to give them the information they need to set up a set of coilovers for you.

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sounds like you were looking at filthy motorsports site. Give them a call and talk to them as they will need some more info for coil sizing. Rock crawling valving should be good for you and will give you a good ride on the road as it will be on the softer side where desert valving is going to be stiff on the compression and light on the rebound. Low speed driving on dessert valving is kinda rough.

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Best thing you can do is call and talk to them. Or give Ryan at TRD a call.

You want someone that knows what they're doing to get you in the ballpark to begin with. Then you're either going to learn how to dial them in yourself, or pay for tuning sessions.

Checking a box on a website doesn't even begin to give them the information they need to set up a set of coilovers for you.
Thank you.

What I've seen with most King shocks is that the valving is all the same no matter what vehicle you have or what you're doing with it. Basically King has one primary "solid axle" tune their dealers sell whether you have a cj/yj/tj/jku and whether you're going fast or crawling.

Everything we do is 100% custom to your vehicle based on numbers so it's extremely accurate and completely customized to your vehicle and terrain. We model your Jeep in a program and build the perfect damping curve that makes your rig react the way we want in different terrain. In addition we use new tuning techniques which result in a smoother ride. You can check out our results by searching for AccuTune on pirate.
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Thanks for the response . I figured I wouldnt get it dialed in right away but close enough to a starting point.

Will look that up TRD thanks again
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Start by getting some good sprung corner weights.
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What's the best way to do that. I hit the scales weighed the front end . Then deducted what I could find for weight of tires rims and axle . Came up with a corner weight of 1241.5 lbs so that's my starting point. I've punched it into the calculator and ask a few suppliers and been told I need a 250/300 spring rate

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What's the best way to do that. I hit the scales weighed the front end . Then deducted what I could find for weight of tires rims and axle . Came up with a corner weight of 1241.5 lbs so that's my starting point. I've punched it into the calculator and ask a few suppliers and been told I need a 250/300 spring rate
That seems high, but it really depends on your mods.

Front and rear weights are a good start, I suspect your unsprung weights are too light.

Spring rate depends on:
Corner Sprung Weight
Front or Rear
Up Travel
Total Travel
Shock Mounting Angles

I think most people are over-springing JK's and incorrectly valving them.

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I would agree most run too much of a rate but you may want higher for high speed and lower rates for crawling and ride comfort.

Personally I have a set of scales and you might find a good shop that has a set and can get a more accurate weight. Your up/down ratio at ride height is something needed so you can set the ride height correctly

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Thanks once again guys really helpful.

Ryan I will be sending you a email in the next day or so.

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2nd what they all said.. !

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