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post #1 of 15 Old 05-15-2017, 02:22 PM Thread Starter
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Got my wheels and tires, now too choose the lift

Got my wheels and tires delivered today. Had to order from 4 Wheel Parts whine they were on sale. Went with ProComp 8101 in 17x9 with BFG AT in 315/70r17 (basically a 35x12.50).

Now I have to choose a lift kit. I was first leaning toward the Rough Rounty 3.5" kit that cones with front lower control arms, because it's inexpensive asy $500 and has great reviews, but I've also heard of people complaining of spring sag with it. Next, I started looking hard at the the RK 3.5" flex kit, but damn it's expensive, plus I have to add my own shocks and bump stops.

What other options should I look at in 2.5-3.5" kit for around $1000 plus or minus a couple hundred. Would be ideal if it included shocks and bump stops. I understand that ill probably have to use exhaust spacers or a y pipe regardless, but I'd prefer to not replace my front drive shaft right away. I'm looking to get something with front lower control arms to correct the geometry for on road driving, otherwise I'd just go with a cheap budget boost.

So, Rubicon Express? Metal cloak? Terra Flex?

It's my daily driver and hunting rig with mild off road every month or so. Needs to be comfortable enough to run up and down the interstate, but capable enough off road to ride mild trails with some ground clearance for stream crossings and what not.
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Well Rockkrawler is 2300, metalcloaks is 2300 and teraflex is 750-3k.

I'm planning on going with the metalcloak for mine and we are pretty much using the rigs the same way.
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Have you seen our package deals? Look at what you get for your money when you're comparing lifts from different companies. For the money RK is usually hard to beat. Every kit includes an adjustable track bar, sway bar disconnects, and the 3.5" includes front and rear brake lines while most companies are leaving you to figure it out or run a drop bracket.

Here is our package deal for the 3.5 Flex System. The price includes shocks and you can add bump stops if you would like to. Everything is in stock and will ship the same day.

PACKAGE: Rock Krawler JKU 3.5 Flex System

Let me know if you have any questions!

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Have you seen our package deals? Look at what you get for your money when you're comparing lifts from different companies. For the money RK is usually hard to beat. Every kit includes an adjustable track bar, sway bar disconnects, and the 3.5" includes front and rear brake lines while most companies are leaving you to figure it out or run a drop bracket.

Here is our package deal for the 3.5 Flex System. The price includes shocks and you can add bump stops if you would like to. Everything is in stock and will ship the same day.

PACKAGE: Rock Krawler JKU 3.5 Flex System

Let me know if you have any questions!

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I hadn't seen those packages. Where are you located?

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Got my wheels and tires delivered today. Had to order from 4 Wheel Parts whine they were on sale. Went with ProComp 8101 in 17x9 with BFG AT in 315/70r17 (basically a 35x12.50).

Now I have to choose a lift kit. I was first leaning toward the Rough Rounty 3.5" kit that cones with front lower control arms, because it's inexpensive asy $500 and has great reviews, but I've also heard of people complaining of spring sag with it. Next, I started looking hard at the the RK 3.5" flex kit, but damn it's expensive, plus I have to add my own shocks and bump stops.

What other options should I look at in 2.5-3.5" kit for around $1000 plus or minus a couple hundred. Would be ideal if it included shocks and bump stops. I understand that ill probably have to use exhaust spacers or a y pipe regardless, but I'd prefer to not replace my front drive shaft right away. I'm looking to get something with front lower control arms to correct the geometry for on road driving, otherwise I'd just go with a cheap budget boost.

So, Rubicon Express? Metal cloak? Terra Flex?

It's my daily driver and hunting rig with mild off road every month or so. Needs to be comfortable enough to run up and down the interstate, but capable enough off road to ride mild trails with some ground clearance for stream crossings and what not.

For 35's and light wheeling, you would be fine with a 2.5" lift. At 2.5" you don't need an exhaust spacer. I recommend the AEV DualSport XT 2.5" lift for people wanting a good on-road ride with decent off-road capabilities. AEV really did their homework when designing their lifts, with a lot of people saying they ride better than stock on the road! The DualSport lift does include shocks and bumps, but no lower control arms. They aren't necessarily needed at 2.5" but I would recommend running their Geometry correction brackets for the front control arms. These will allow you to adjust caster to make sure it's right in spec. With the larger tires, you may also want to get a ProCal or tuner of some sort to correct your speedometer.

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I've got the Teraflex 2.5" suspension lift and I'm running 35" Mickey Thompson MTZ P3s. Looks pretty badass.
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A simple 2" budget boost with shock extensions is enough for what you are after and at only a couple hundred bucks its not going to break the bank.
You don't need a full blown 3.5" kit to run around on the pavement or even run most trails. Rough country is cheap because it is made in china and is incomplete as far as components included. Most end up spending 2x more then the initial lift cost to fix the ride quality and performance.

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I hadn't seen those packages. Where are you located?

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post #9 of 15 Old 05-22-2017, 09:23 AM Thread Starter
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Got it all put together, alignment tomorrow. Ended up being a little more challenging than I expected, but I got it done.

Road manners are great, feels at least as good as stock, maybe a tiny bit stiffer, but handles bumps better for sure.

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Got it all put together, alignment tomorrow. Ended up being a little more challenging than I expected, but I got it done.

Road manners are great, feels at least as good as stock, maybe a tiny bit stiffer, but handles bumps better for sure.

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Looks good! What lift did you end up going with?

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RK 2.5" FLEX. The only complaint I had was the jam nuts on all the adjustable arms. A) How am I supposed to torque them to 200-300 foot pounds when there isn't a place for a second wrench? B) If I'm supposed to torque them on the vehicle, maybe try moving the position to a place where the nut isn't INSIDE the mounting bracket where no wrench will ever get to it.

Other than that, it's great. I torqued them the best I could on the bench. They are tight, but i doubt I hit 250 ftlbs. I'll have the alignment shop finish torquing them and add some lock tight tomorrow. My buddy works there and his old man owns the place, so I trust they'll do it right.

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So your happy otherwise? How does it drive compared to the original setup?
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I should have said what subtle differences are you seeing from the change any issues with tire grabbing after with highway driving or when you get into a grove in the highway?
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RK 2.5" FLEX. The only complaint I had was the jam nuts on all the adjustable arms. A) How am I supposed to torque them to 200-300 foot pounds when there isn't a place for a second wrench? B) If I'm supposed to torque them on the vehicle, maybe try moving the position to a place where the nut isn't INSIDE the mounting bracket where no wrench will ever get to it.

Other than that, it's great. I torqued them the best I could on the bench. They are tight, but i doubt I hit 250 ftlbs. I'll have the alignment shop finish torquing them and add some lock tight tomorrow. My buddy works there and his old man owns the place, so I trust they'll do it right.

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I have seen severeal of our fellow members ( @Goodysgotacuda , @kjeeper10 ) fashion-up jigs to torque RK felx-arm jam nuts. KJeeper10's looked somethin like this , iirc ... . I know I saw a thread someplace else where he had made use of a handy crows-foot on a 1/2" ratchet to be able to access the frame-side jam nuts but don't have images of it. Maybe search this site for "jig" or "jam-nut on bench" or something.
Heck, KJeeper10 might chime in if we hang-in there a little while...


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I should have said what subtle differences are you seeing from the change any issues with tire grabbing after with highway driving or when you get into a grove in the highway?
No issues at all so far, in fact I think it rides better, even with the alignment slightly out. The little bumps in the road feel smaller, no bump steer or wobble, a little more steering input/feedback, but I suspect that has more to do with 35" tires and alignment than the lift. No rub, even though my backspacing is slightly less than the recommended minimum. I'm really happy with it, just hate the jam nut issues I mentioned.

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