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Can 35s fit on stock Hard Rock

I have a stock 17 Hard Rock and was curious if I can fit 35s with no lift. I'm planning on adding flat fender flares like Poison spyder or metalcloak. I will also be running the stock wheels so I know I will need spacers, which I'm ok with. I just want to know if I will experience any rubbing without a lift. Thanks for the help.
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I don't think you can get bigger than 32's on a stock jeep. Why use the stock wheels though?
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Yes they will fit with the flat fenders and doing a 1.5 or 1.75" spacer. Will want to add some additional bumpstop as well.

I ran like this for a short time while waiting for my lift to arrive; but it didn't get wheeled during that time (was maybe a week or so lapse). 315x70xr17 MTZ's, 1.75" spidertrax (just a hair smaller than a 35)

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I ran a 2" coil in the front (only gained an inch of actual lift after the steel bumper and winch)
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Maybe you should try searching the forum first:

JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum - Search Results for 35s

Which quickly found the following:

https://www.jkowners.com/forum/modifi...sion-lcog.html
https://www.jkowners.com/forum/modifi...-door-35s.html

The JK platform has been around for years and most questions about fit of just about anything have already been asked and answered. All you need to do is search...
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I don't think you can get bigger than 32's on a stock jeep. Why use the stock wheels though?
I want to keep the stock wheels as I like the way they look and I see no sense in spending money on something while i have 5 good wheels. If I were to ruin 2 of them I would be looking for aftermarket wheels
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Maybe you should try searching the forum first:

JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum - Search Results for 35s

Which quickly found the following:

https://www.jkowners.com/forum/modifi...sion-lcog.html
https://www.jkowners.com/forum/modifi...-door-35s.html

The JK platform has been around for years and most questions about fit of just about anything have already been asked and answered. All you need to do is search...
I searched and didn't see what I was looking. I see people asking of the stock JK/JKUs but nothing on a JKU Hard Rock. I didn't know if someone could offer more insight, like hey the HR bumpers weight more then other so you will rub and need a coil spacer, or if you remove your end caps you might be fine Also no you cant do it you need to have 3.5" lift. So if you could point me to some post with JKU Hard Rocks that would be great. Thank you for your advice. I will be looking in the mean time.
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its ,like,every 6 months this gets asked .
lmgtfy: to search JKOwners , use the domain suffix as a google search (crawl)operator after your term being sought like this :
" Biggest Wheel and Tire Jeep JKU No Lift:jkowners.com " minus the quotes .
You can run 35s pretty much stock with at least 3.75" backspace aftermarket wheel or stock w spacers and only a leveling kit or trimmed fenders or flat aftermarket ones . This post caused me serious dejavu for some reason .
Your HardCock , er, I mean HardRock is just a model variant and has no different lift requirements to run a 35" than a Sport X or a Rubicon X or BlackBear the OscarMike or a Sahara Unlimited or an Arctic or a MOAB or the Chief ...all require . It's an uppackage . Search that term also , maybe?
It's Friday so I'll be super helpful to a new friend ; get Teraflex' leveling kit and some SpiderTrax or Synergy Mfg wheel spacers if you want to keep the stock Wheels and slap your 35s on it. If not level , smack another 1/2" spacer up front . I ran mine like that for 3-4 years with 35s after adding a heavier bumper +winch that I'm pretty certain was heavier than your HardRock HD bumper. Those others suggest end cap removal because you'll rub those when articulating off camber terrain...




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I searched and didn't see what I was looking. I see people asking of the stock JK/JKUs but nothing on a JKU Hard Rock. I didn't know if someone could offer more insight, like hey the HR bumpers weight more then other so you will rub and need a coil spacer, or if you remove your end caps you might be fine Also no you cant do it you need to have 3.5" lift. So if you could point me to some post with JKU Hard Rocks that would be great. Thank you for your advice. I will be looking in the mean time.


I have a 2016 Hard Rock JKU with 35s. I ran it for a short period of time with no lift. It will rub the fenders occasionally. Flat fenders or 2.5" lift will be fine with 35s.


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I hgtd's my question. Thanks to who pointed me here. Search sucks on this forum, fyi. I tried many things that should have pulled this thread and got shit on seat covers and everything else....
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The "Google Custom Search" at the very top right usually finds what I'm looking for.

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I get tired of all the self appointed search police. If you've got a question, ask it. Maybe someone will come along with an answer.

Yes, you can run 35s on a stock Hard Rock, or in my case a Rubicon Recon, which is pretty much the same thing. You don't need a leveling kit, and you don't need bump stop extensions. You do need to change the fender flares and run 1 1/2" wheel spacers. Here's my Rubicon Recon with 35s and no lift. It drives better than any lifted Jeep I've ever owned, and no tire rub.


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its ,like,every 6 months this gets asked .
When you drop an extra 5 bills on a fake hood, tub-mounted door dingers, lesbaru wheels and a bumper that has more places to hang shit than joan crawford's closet, you would *think* that the Hard Rock has unique magical tire-supporting capabilities, so yeah.
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I get tired of all the self appointed search police. If you've got a question, ask it. Maybe someone will come along with an answer.

Yes, you can run 35s on a stock Hard Rock, or in my case a Rubicon Recon, which is pretty much the same thing. You don't need a leveling kit, and you don't need bump stop extensions. You do need to change the fender flares and run 1 1/2" wheel spacers. Here's my Rubicon Recon with 35s and no lift. It drives better than any lifted Jeep I've ever owned, and no tire rub.


Haven't seen you post in a while. Did you sell the JK with the Dynatrac 60's under it?

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Yes, I got a great offer on it and sold it a year ago, and actually went for a year using other off road toys, and the wife's Jeep once in a while (lifted Grand Cherokee). It was the first time in 43 years that I had gone without a Jeep of my own to go back country exploring in, and it didn't work very well. Now I have the new Recon, and have really been enjoying it. I've decided I better just plan on having a Jeep from now on.

Did I mention I'm really enjoying this new Recon?

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Yes, I got a great offer on it and sold it a year ago, and actually went for a year using other off road toys, and the wife's Jeep once in a while (lifted Grand Cherokee). It was the first time in 43 years that I had gone without a Jeep of my own to go back country exploring in, and it didn't work very well. Now I have the new Recon, and have really been enjoying it. I've decided I better just plan on having a Jeep from now on.

Did I mention I'm really enjoying this new Recon?
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Thanks for the welcome back. I'm going through a keep it simple phase. The only mods planned on the Recon are already done, ... Mopar fender flares, 35s on the stock wheels, and a Warn winch. And I plan to wheel the piss out of it every chance I get.

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I hgtd's my question. Thanks to who pointed me here. Search sucks on this forum, fyi. I tried many things that should have pulled this thread and got shit on seat covers and everything else....
Search DOES have usability gaps for sure. Usually I just google this format: do 35's fit no lift site:jkowners.com https://www.google.ca/search?q=do+35...obile&ie=UTF-8
And it's not annoying to help (or try to help) it's annoying that people don't try to search first, then narrow it with questions. Google sometimes returns with too much information for easy absorbtion.
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I'm running 35's with Metalcloak flares and a terraflex leveling kit with tons of room.


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I get tired of all the self appointed search police. If you've got a question, ask it. Maybe someone will come along with an answer.

Yes, you can run 35s on a stock Hard Rock, or in my case a Rubicon Recon, which is pretty much the same thing. You don't need a leveling kit, and you don't need bump stop extensions. You do need to change the fender flares and run 1 1/2" wheel spacers. Here's my Rubicon Recon with 35s and no lift. It drives better than any lifted Jeep I've ever owned, and no tire rub.


Looks Good thanks for the tips
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Teraflex leveling kit, flat fenders (bushwacker). Added one inch to the rear later to restore rake. Stock shocks. Goodyear MTR 35s
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Teraflex leveling kit, flat fenders (bushwacker). Added one inch to the rear later to restore rake. Stock shocks. Goodyear MTR 35s
Heavy 11.5 superwinch, ps bumper and lower skid. Plenty of room.
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I'm running 35's with Metalcloak flares and a terraflex leveling kit with tons of room.


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I have a stock 17 Hard Rock and was curious if I can fit 35s with no lift. I'm planning on adding flat fender flares like Poison spyder or metalcloak. I will also be running the stock wheels so I know I will need spacers, which I'm ok with. I just want to know if I will experience any rubbing without a lift. Thanks for the help.
Yes, with flat fenders and wheel spacers 35s fit just fine.

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Your HardCock , er, I mean HardRock is just a model variant and has no different lift requirements to run a 35" than a Sport X or a Rubicon X or BlackBear the OscarMike or a Sahara Unlimited or an Arctic or a MOAB or the Chief ...all require . It's an uppackage . Search that term also , maybe?
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Actaully they are different than other models of the JK/JKU. The spring rate is higher, different angles on the bumpers as well as shorter rock sliders net more clearance in the fender wells for larger tires. Don't believe me? Go to the nearest Jeep dealer and see for yourself the Hardrock/Recon sits taller than the Rubicon and even more than a Sport/Sahara.


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Yes, with flat fenders and wheel spacers 35s fit just fine.



Actaully they are different than other models of the JK/JKU. The spring rate is higher, different angles on the bumpers as well as shorter rock sliders net more clearance in the fender wells for larger tires. Don't believe me? Go to the nearest Jeep dealer and see for yourself the Hardrock/Recon sits taller than the Rubicon and even more than a Sport/Sahara.
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My '11 Unlimited was a one- off Sahara ( I've told this story several times on here on other threads) that some customer ordered from dealer with tow package, the 4.10 option , LSD out back and some rubi shocks ...all for towing , I presume. They never picked it up , lost a deposit and by then the '12s were a business quarter away from arriving so they wanted this red headed stepchild Sahara Unlimited that was even marked up more than the other overpriced Sahara Unlimiteds were off the lot. My wonderfully haggling/bartering skilled wife haggled and got them down to the point they were just wanting us to leave , lol. So we got a ridiculous deal on a jeep we could |would never have considered paying what they were asking initially for less than a Sport X '12 but with all that lux crap ( most removed , ironically,by now, ha!) bulked up , odd Sahara that due to the 19/60 springs from a rubi and the shocks sat higher than the other saharas on the lot. Noticeable.
So, I am aware that certain models can be setup for max offroad . Sounds like a dedicated package with the hard rock as you pointed out. I recall the advert showing pre-shortened rockrails and pinch seams as well as the heaviest of the coils offered but did not know the depart-approach angles had been modified. Did it still have the bash bar and air valiance ? If so, those are the main impediments for approach angle , not the bumper as much....and I can't run the hitch on back as it was just a skid plate on mine.
I was just smartassedly confirming that only nominal modification should be needed to run 35s on the vehicle is all.



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