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post #1 of 35 Old 02-12-2017, 09:48 AM Thread Starter
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A couple beadlock /wheel questions

First, in lieu of spacer rings (I don't believe they're available for the two beadlock wheels I'm looking at) - any thoughts on using washers instead, if needed? I saw some of the guys on pirate do this too.

Second, how bad would it be to mount a 37" tire to an 8" wide beadlock? The tire specs want at least an 8.5" wide wheel.

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37x13.50 or 12.50

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37x13.50 or 12.50

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12.5

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37x13.50 or 12.50

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Although the specs list it at 13.

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You may have a little more "crown" to the tire but should be fine

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You are going to run 37's on an axle designed for 35's so why are you concerned about running a tire on a wheel smaller then the manufacturer recommends?
Just being a smart ass. like said above more tire bulge which equals less clearance on the inside to frame and such.

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You are going to run 37's on an axle designed for 35's so why are you concerned about running a tire on a wheel smaller then the manufacturer recommends?
Just being a smart ass. like said above more tire bulge which equals less clearance on the inside to frame and such.
Thanks. Was concerned with mounting difficulty too.

Any thoughts on the washers as spacers?

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I am not sure where you are talking about putting washers.

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I am not sure where you are talking about putting washers.
Behind the beadlock rings to prevent space and side load on the bolts - heard that the bead is pretty thick on the STT Pros. Similar concept to the spacer rings that method sells for their 105s.

Not sure if they'll be necessary but I'd like to have a plan in place before I order.

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Which wheels?

Check with OMF they may have spacers .

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Which wheels?

Check with OMF they may have spacers .
I was looking at the DV8 882 wheels or the new Quadratec SlickLock. Although now it looks like the latter is no longer available.

Anyway the only spacers rings available (even OMF) seem to be the wrong # of holes for either of those.

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I was looking at the DV8 882 wheels or the new Quadratec SlickLock. Although now it looks like the latter is no longer available.

Anyway the only spacers rings available (even OMF) seem to be the wrong # of holes for either of those.
I am by far not an expert but I do use the plastic spacers on my Raceline beadlocks with MTRs. Very thick bead as well. If I didn't have spacers I don't know that I would use metal washers. First off you will need several for each bolt, especially for new tires. The beads tend to flatten out over time.

I would start with some thick, dense rubber washers. You are just trying to keep the bead ring "flat" and not tilted at some angle to the face of the wheel.
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Just my opinion but don't use any rubber washers, either find proper spacers or as some of us have done change to another bead lock manufacture.

Steel rings will conform to thicker tire beads but again IMO not the best solution.

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Actually I saw a recommendation to use those aluminum washer like spacers for this application, and company that sells them in all sizes.

But I have a few reservations about that too. I think I'll see if I can get ahold of a real spacer ring, or otherwise save some more and move on to potential wheel #4 in my search.

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don't take this the wrong way, but are you sure you need beadlocks?
I bet if you run an 8" wheel on 37's you'll never blow a bead... and if you do. just put air in it.
8" wheels are fine and they hold the bead better.
do NOT use washers or anything else to space out the ring. good beadlocks will have a ring welded on and if it's not there, it's really hard to get the tire centered and balance properly.
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don't take this the wrong way, but are you sure you need beadlocks?
I bet if you run an 8" wheel on 37's you'll never blow a bead... and if you do. just put air in it.
8" wheels are fine and they hold the bead better.
do NOT use washers or anything else to space out the ring. good beadlocks will have a ring welded on and if it's not there, it's really hard to get the tire centered and balance properly.
It was more of a, I need new wheels anyway and airing down to 12 psi wasn't good enough, so while I'm at it I'm going to get some beadlocks.

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I am by far not an expert but I do use the plastic spacers on my Raceline beadlocks with MTRs. Very thick bead as well. If I didn't have spacers I don't know that I would use metal washers. First off you will need several for each bolt, especially for new tires. The beads tend to flatten out over time.



I would start with some thick, dense rubber washers. You are just trying to keep the bead ring "flat" and not tilted at some angle to the face of the wheel.


The MTR bead is actually not that thick. It's about 5/8". When I ran them on my Racelines with Steel rings I didn't need a spacer.

Pit Bull Rockers are a very thick bead, about 1.25". With steel rings I didn't need a spacer but those that use an aluminum ring usually do.

Just changed to 40" Cooper STT Pro's. Their bead is about 1" and I did use a spacer with Aluminum rings

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On my racelines, I use both their plastic spacer and a washer to keep my aluminum rings from coning.

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Well I finally just said screw it and ponied up for the Method 105s and their spacer rings. A little more $ than I was planning on but I'm excited.
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good beadlocks will have a ring welded on and if it's not there, it's really hard to get the tire centered and balance properly.
Correction: Good bead locks don't require any afterthought solutions because they are engineered for the customer's intended use from the very start.

Bead lock systems that physically clamp the tire from the outside leave critical fasteners in a seriously vulnerable region of the wheel and require increased vigilance due to the nature of how they work. A better method exists.
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Correction: Good bead locks don't require any afterthought solutions because they are engineered for the customer's intended use from the very start.

Bead lock systems that physically clamp the tire from the outside leave critical fasteners in a seriously vulnerable region of the wheel and require increased vigilance due to the nature of how they work. A better method exists.
I considered your wheels but couldn't find them for sale anywhere, they were much heavier, were very pricy, and looked difficult to mount IIRC.

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Have you considered Hutchinson's? A little more expensive but the best wheel out there in every way. Can't believe they're not the go-to standard.
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Have you considered Hutchinson's? A little more expensive but the best wheel out there in every way. Can't believe they're not the go-to standard.
Hutchison are badass and you can't build a much heavier duty BL but they weigh SO FREAKING MUCH the non- SC'ed or LS'ed JKs (at least the non Pentastar ones)have trouble with them once any manner of 37 or larger tire is mounted .Just my opinion on Hutchison s


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Yeah the Hutchinsons look nice but yeah heavy. And pricey, not in a backspacing I want, etc... Getting my current tires dismounted today to get ready for the method 105s which check every box.

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They don't weight that much more then a standard Beadlock only a couple pounds more. I was looking for a lighter bead lock wheel and could not find one that would make much of a difference over the rock monsters.

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