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Exactly what the title states. I'm taking my auto trans out and replacing it with a manual. I've got everything to do it, BUT I'm wondering about the PCM....Do I just need that flashed by the dealer or would Diablo or Superships work?

Side note...anyone ever do a AAM swap? Just curious.

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I am working on the AAM 9.25&10.5 swap currently. Seems like a nice fit. As for your ECM I think you will need a manual ECM(3 plugs only) and have your vin, SKIM etc flashed in. Contact A2 speed about this. Maybe they can change yours to manual. I am swapping my manual to auto so have been in conversation with them on similar matters
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I am working on the AAM 9.25&10.5 swap currently. Seems like a nice fit. As for your ECM I think you will need a manual ECM(3 plugs only) and have your vin, SKIM etc flashed in. Contact A2 speed about this. Maybe they can change yours to manual. I am swapping my manual to auto so have been in conversation with them on similar matters
Awesome! Now you're the only person I've come across who is going AAM. Hell its equal to a 60 and 14 bolt so why not?

I'll check them out. Every conversation I've come across regarding that sway for 07-11 has said to leave the auto plug removed from the transmission and the ECM will relearn itself in about 40 miles. This makes me nervous

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Awesome! Now you're the only person I've come across who is going AAM. Hell its equal to a 60 and 14 bolt so why not?

I'll check them out. Every conversation I've come across regarding that sway for 07-11 has said to leave the auto plug removed from the transmission and the ECM will relearn itself in about 40 miles. This makes me nervous
What AAM are you referring to? I think most everyone doing a JK rear axle swap is using a 2000-2006 Chevy AAM 10.5. Chevy switched from the Corporate to AAM around 2000. That said, the GM version retained much of what made the "Corporate" 14 bolt a better axle and that is the 3rd pinion support. The GM version is absolutely a stronger design than the Dodge version.

If you are referring to the Dodge AAM 10.5, the reasons no one uses them is that they cost a lot more, there is no aftermarket (gears, lockers, axle shafts, etc), and it is a weaker axle than a GM 10.5 (and front Ford D60, especially now that you can use the 10" ring gear). Dodge also stopped using free spin front axles (locking hubs are one if the main reasons people get 1 ton axles). A lot of the 2500/3500 Ram owners are spending $2,000 for front free-spin kits... There isn't a shop or person out there who knows more about JK swap axles than us and we did our homework on the Dodge axles. There is not one reason we can come up with that they make sense.

As for the trans swap, there is a good thread somewhere on this site where a shop did it. They had some gremlins after doing it and it was more complicated than just getting a flash done. You should be able to find it fairly easily with a little searching.


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Exactly what the title states. I'm taking my auto trans out and replacing it with a manual. I've got everything to do it, BUT I'm wondering about the PCM....Do I just need that flashed by the dealer or would Diablo or Superships work?

Side note...anyone ever do a AAM swap? Just curious.
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What AAM are you referring to? I think most everyone doing a JK rear axle swap is using a 2000-2006 Chevy AAM 10.5. Chevy switched from the Corporate to AAM around 2000. That said, the GM version retained much of what made the "Corporate" 14 bolt a better axle and that is the 3rd pinion support. The GM version is absolutely a stronger design than the Dodge version.

If you are referring to the Dodge AAM 10.5, the reasons no one uses them is that they cost a lot more, there is no aftermarket (gears, lockers, axle shafts, etc), and it is a weaker axle than a GM 10.5 (and front Ford D60, especially now that you can use the 10" ring gear). Dodge also stopped using free spin front axles (locking hubs are one if the main reasons people get 1 ton axles). A lot of the 2500/3500 Ram owners are spending $2,000 for front free-spin kits... There isn't a shop or person out there who knows more about JK swap axles than us and we did our homework on the Dodge axles. There is not one reason we can come up with that they make sense.

As for the trans swap, there is a good thread somewhere on this site where a shop did it. They had some gremlins after doing it and it was more complicated than just getting a flash done. You should be able to find it fairly easily with a little searching.
The AAM I'm doing is the 9.25 front and 11.5 rear. And I'm finding lockers and gears for them. There isn't a lot of manufacturers but they are out there

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I've read the thread, but I don't see where you mentioned what year jk you have? PCM will be different based on that as well.

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