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I'm my camber may be off on my Rubi. Is there a way to do the alignment myself or should I take it in. I saw a Toe-In write in the library but that's it.

When I did a 5 tire rotation after 6k miles, I put the left front on the carrier. I noticed the other day that the inside looked a little more worn than the outside. I was looking straight on at my Jeep yesterday and I can actually see the tire further out on the bottm than the top.


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post #2 of 15 Old 06-28-2010, 12:24 PM
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Check the ball joints. The tires wont last long that way.
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My camber is off due to a bent c. Only fixes are to straighten it, get offset joints, or a new axle.

Balljoints going bad can cause camber to be off also.

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i just had offset joints put in.

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JK only has 11k on it. HTF could the ball joints be gone.

I'll go check them.

I'll take it in to a shop to have them check the alignment.


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the camber is FACTORY , you cant change or adjust it, you also cant change then caster without adjustable control arms. So taking it for an alignment is pretty much a waste other then adjusting toe it, unless u are trying to find out what is bent. Any hard wheeling? With only 11k on it I cant see the ball joints being bad but I guess anything is possible. Myself and others have had bad hub bearings that made the camber look really bad, but again not at 11K. If you did bend a C you can use a offset balljoint to fix it.


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the camber is FACTORY , you cant change or adjust it, you also cant change then caster without adjustable control arms. So taking it for an alignment is pretty much a waste other then adjusting toe it, unless u are trying to find out what is bent. Any hard wheeling? With only 11k on it I cant see the ball joints being bad but I guess anything is possible. Myself and others have had bad hub bearings that made the camber look really bad, but again not at 11K. If you did bend a C you can use a offset balljoint to fix it.
I've only really done forest roads. But back in December it took me 5 or 6 times to get up this big hill. The Jeep was bouncing everywhere in the ruts. The steering is perfect and I have no wobble.

When you say "bend a C", what be a "C" (control arm?)

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Jacked up the front of the JK and put it on stands. Ball joints and wheel bearings are fine. Nothing under there is bent and everything is tight. I looked at the JK head-on this morning with the wheels straight and the camber looked fine. I'm going to check the Toe-in alignment this weekend.


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The inner "Cs" on JK front axles are notoriously weak, as are the axle tubes themselves. The local dealer tells me camber readings on bone stock, brand new JKs are out of spec right off the transporters. They think the process of chaining the vehicles down on the trucks puts enough load on the tubes & Cs to bend them and thus the camber issues. Only way you can tell is by putting it on an alignment rack and doing the readings.
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The inner "Cs" on JK front axles are notoriously weak, as are the axle tubes themselves. The local dealer tells me camber readings on bone stock, brand new JKs are out of spec right off the transporters. They think the process of chaining the vehicles down on the trucks puts enough load on the tubes & Cs to bend them and thus the camber issues. Only way you can tell is by putting it on an alignment rack and doing the readings.
Still unclear on the "C's". Are you talking about the yokes that the ball joints attach to?


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Still unclear on the "C's". Are you talking about the yokes that the ball joints attach to?
Here is the gusset for them with pics

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...t-p-21273.html


I would say check it on a alignment rack if you feel. With that many miles I wouldn't imagine the joint to be back, but I guess it wouldn't surprise me.


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Here is the gusset for them with pics

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...t-p-21273.html


I would say check it on a alignment rack if you feel. With that many miles I wouldn't imagine the joint to be back, but I guess it wouldn't surprise me.

Thanks, the picture helped and is what I call the yoke.


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The ball joints on my axle C's were shagged after only a couple of thousand KM on stock tyres.

I guess faulty batches do exist.

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My front axle was bent as well as the "C". I think the best fix is to send it to Poly and have them replace the tube, add the gussets bend back the C and re gear it all at the same time. Now I have a very strong Dana 44 with 3" chromoly tubes and "C" s that will never bend again. I'm happy as could be and it cost a lot less than a new front axle. I also have a new place to call and whine with stupid questions when I can't figure stuff out. Money well spent. If your going to do any kind of wheeling with your JK at all just take care of the front end now, do it all at once and fix it right the first time. So much cheaper than a new 60 and for what I'm going to do just as strong.
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Seems to me it would be difficult to bend the short tube side of the axle. If mine is ever bent, and the Jeep is under warranty, they'll be replacing it.


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