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OK, I Give, how do you get the (6spd) fill plug out?

OK, I cut the Allen wrench and was able to loosen the drain plug and draind the fluid in our 07 Unlimited, but no one mentioned the fill plug was a different size. Sears, the only game in town near me only stocks a 17mm and then down to a 13mm, which I know is too small.

I screwed around with it for a while and found a grade 8 9/16 bolt fit, I socked three nuts down on it tight, hammered it in the fill plug, it won't budge. Meanwhile, like an idiot I already drained the fluid, and I'm supposed to be leaving tomorrow night to go away camping for 5 days.

Any ideas? If I heat it it'll make it worse won't it??

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There was enough protruding on mine to grab it with some vice grips and turn it.
Thats what most people are doing I believe.
I have the hex head to fit it but its more of a pain than using the vice grips. Who cares if the external threads are a bit messed up.
And its on there tight prepare to bust some knuckles the first time.

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, That worked. When I first read that, I was like, OK, this oughta really screw it up, but I got a vice grip on it and it came loose.

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you make a custom tool. yours must have been extra tight. i got mine out real slow with a big wrench.



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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, That worked. When I first read that, I was like, OK, this oughta really screw it up, but I got a vice grip on it and it came loose.

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You're welcome
from now on you can use your tool since its looser...

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Well thanks for the help, but after 5.5 hours and two quarts of Synthetic, not much difference, still shifts like a worn out model A. Will this get better with time? I put about 10 miles.

I just don't get it, why does our 2000 TJ shift so nice and smooth, and the JK with 20,000 on it that's never been wheeled feel like it's about to explode, you would think they would have gotten better, not worse.

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Well thanks for the help, but after 5.5 hours and two quarts of Synthetic, not much difference, still shifts like a worn out model A. Will this get better with time? I put about 10 miles.

I just don't get it, why does our 2000 TJ shift so nice and smooth, and the JK with 20,000 on it that's never been wheeled feel like it's about to explode, you would think they would have gotten better, not worse.
i put Pennzoil Synchromesh into my manual tranny. tried it for a couple days. hated it. went and bought mopar oem fluid to put back in. cleared up all the stickyness and notchyness that came with the synthetic.
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Well now you know why mechanics dont drain something until they get the fill plug out lol.

What synthetic did you try? Royal Purple and Amsoil feel pretty good in mine. (tried both)

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I couldn't get the Amsoil in time for our trip, so for a change I put in the Pennzoil, I'll order the Amsoil today or tomorrow and it should be here when I get back, (Does anyone have the part number or exact name of the Amsoil product I need to I can just give it to my buddy so he doesn't have to look it up?) but I was already pretty commited to trying SOMETHING to make this clunker stop shifting like a clunker. When I get back over the 4th I'll swap out the Pennzoil and try the Amsoil and see if that changinges anything, I allready know the OEM stuff, so I'll have a good comparison. BTW, it took just under 2 quarts, does that sound correct?

plac, thanks for the pics on the home made "Tool", that's exactly what I ended up with, the fit was so tight, I just left it on there! And yes SONIC, it should come out easier this time. So, does anyone have the opinion that the factory tries to use a million differt typs and sizes of hardware just to try to force people back to them for service? Really, wouldn't common sense be to make the drain and the fill plug the same size? Come on!

I'm going to post a thread and see if anyone has tried any additive like Slick50

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remember, always loosen the fill plug BEFORE doing any oil changes so you don't have to scramble to find a solution. on my wifes 05 explorer i was going to do an oil and filter change on the auto transmission, until i saw there was no fill point. not even a dip stick to put new oil in.
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(Does anyone have the part number or exact name of the Amsoil product I need to I can just give it to my buddy so he doesn't have to look it up?)

I'm going to post a thread and see if anyone has tried any additive like Slick50
Here you go... I use Amsoil for all my fluids... works great.

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Here you go... I use Amsoil for all my fluids... works great.

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Thats what I'm running. Seems to be doin fine for me.

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........So, does anyone have the opinion that the factory tries to use a million different types and sizes of hardware just to try to force people back to them for service? Really, wouldn't common sense be to make the drain and the fill plug the same size?Come on!........
No, you just don't have enough tools

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No, you just don't have enough tools

Glad it worked out for you
No kidding. I work at a BMW dealership as a tech. You want to talk about a vehicle they don't want the average person touching...it's most german cars for sure. Over-engineered pieces of shit.

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Here, Here Goodysgotacuda

I just got rid of a Mercedes, went in for service, told me the rear coils were "broken"! and needed to be replaced, now in all my years, I've never heard of a coil spring in a car breaking, a torsion bar a couple of times, but never a coil spring. THe guy told me with Mercedes it's common!

Can you imagine a $60,000 car, and they comonly break srpings!!

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Hey UPALM, I put Royal Purple syncromax in mine and I noticed a difference as soon as I put it in gear. They don't list the JK on their application guide but they list the transmission in a truck installation. I have run it for over 30,000 miles with no problem. CM
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Throwin out an update on the Syncromesh debate:

Not sure if Pennzoil changed there brew or what but last week I changed out my tranny fluid (80k service) and it's workin like a champ.

$7.50 a qt @ the local Advance Auto vs $20something+ a qt for the Mopar fluid from the dealer.

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