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what is everyone using? i am leaning towards the powertank. i am currently running 33's but will be going larger in the future and want something i won't have to replace with larger tires. just looking for some opinions


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post #2 of 21 Old 10-08-2007, 09:52 PM
 
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I have a co2 tank and love it. Not Powertank which I think are too expensive but a homebuilt version I actually bought on ebay. It has a nice 10lb aluminum tanks with a valve guard and a fixed 100psi regulator. It works great and doesn't freeze up. No guages but the way the CO2 works I don't think the guage is that valuable anyway since the pressure stays pretty constant until it is practically empty. Just weigh it after you use it to see how full it is.
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I have a Warn Powerplant on the front bumper. I also keep a homemade powertank style tank back at camp for air tools and such.
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im looking into a engine driven compressor. i already have a york 210 left over from my bagged suburban i just need to figure out a mount. kilby has one but its pretty complicated and uses relocated a/c lines, tghe company that makes airock also has one that seems a bit less complicated, but i hate to spend $$ on something that i could prob make myself. and with a engine driven comp theres no wait for air, im my suburban it could fill 17 gal tanks from empty to 130 psi in about 10min at idle and quicker if driving

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post #5 of 21 Old 10-09-2007, 08:47 AM
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I'm with Duke. I have the PowerPlant and a 10 gallon reserve air tank. I also have an original PowerTank and those definitely rock. I will keep the PowerTank in the trailer.


I considered a engine mounted one but the super charger is in the way.
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post #6 of 21 Old 10-09-2007, 09:17 AM
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I have a 10lb Powertank and wouldn't trade it for anything. PowerPlants are very nice as long as you invest in the extra 10 gallon tank. I decided on the Powertank for the simple reason that I don't get out every weekend and I can store the Powertank in the garage. The area I live in is nice, but I'm sure I'd become a bigger target if I put the PowerPlant on the front.
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I'm running the Warn Powerplant and love it. It takes about 1 min. 20 seconds to air up a 35" tire from 15 to 30 lbs. It's fairly quiet to boot! Plus, one less thing to mount and wire.

I have a Shrockworks bumper so the Powerplant mounts low and looks great. I do think it looks a bit tall when mounted on top of the bumper.
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We've got a lot of Happy customers with this kit. VIAIR makes some great Electric kits at a decent price.

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I would love to have a dedicated air source onboard and I have a Viair 400P. Would you recommend using this or should I look into one of the solutions that were designed to be permanent? If this could be mounted, wired and plumbed, is there anything I should watch for?

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I ran the the Viair 450C with a 2.5 gallon tank on my TJ and it worked really well. But compared to my CO2 that I bought for my JK it sucks. There was always alot of down time and the compressor kicking on every thirty seconds and once the compressor was on it stayed on the whole time while filling. With my CO2 the air stays at a fairly constant 150 psi all the time. Much easier to fill tires and run impacts. I got the Source kit for 240.00 shipped to my door. I won't pimp the dealer I got it from but he has treated me well for the last 4 years. Regardless what ever one you choose you will be happy when you have it on the trail. There are just a few pros and cons to weigh. Constant air and having to fill every few months or right after a trip if you fill everyones tires. Never having to refill and having less than adaquit air to continously fill and run tools.

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can anyone tell me what is a good psi for a co2 tank regulator shoud be? from what i have found they are anywhere from 100 to 160 psi. keep in mind i am planning ahead for larger tires and a couple of seconds on a fill up are not the end of the world for me. thanks again


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150 to 200 fixed regulator if you just want to fill tires. If you want to use air tools as well get one with an adjustable reg so you can drop it down to 90 when you want to use air tools.

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150 to 200 fixed regulator if you just want to fill tires. If you want to use air tools as well get one with an adjustable reg so you can drop it down to 90 when you want to use air tools.
would 100 psi be a good "in the middle" type of reg?


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Really if you want the most benifit you should go with an adjustable type. The more pressure you have the faster it will fill your tires. The model that I got but with a higher flow rate 200psi mine is 160 and an adjustable reg to use air tools is 316.00 and it comes with the air hose.

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Mine has a 100psi fixed regulator and I'm happy with it. Higher PSI would be faster I suppose but mine fills my 35s pretty quick.
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I have a home built CO2 tank for now. I will be looking at other options later.
Like said above, get a 150-200PSI fixed regulator. the adjustable ones can freeze solid. then run a small inline reulator AFTER the fixed one. This way when you seat beads you have no fear of it freezing and you have the full flow of the CO2.
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I would love to have a dedicated air source onboard and I have a Viair 400P. Would you recommend using this or should I look into one of the solutions that were designed to be permanent? If this could be mounted, wired and plumbed, is there anything I should watch for?

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The 400P doesn't really have the duty cycle to keep up with air tools. you'd need a pretty good sized tank. I would go for at least a 450C Pump or greater. If your looking for something more permanent and the sound of the pump going on and off doesn't bother you, then I doubt your going to find a better set up at the same price as VIAIR stuff.

CO2 TANKS are damn convenient though. It's portable and always on, just sucks when you run out.

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The 400P doesn't really have the duty cycle to keep up with air tools. you'd need a pretty good sized tank. I would go for at least a 450C Pump or greater. If your looking for something more permanent and the sound of the pump going on and off doesn't bother you, then I doubt your going to find a better set up at the same price as VIAIR stuff.

CO2 TANKS are damn convenient though. It's portable and always on, just sucks when you run out.



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Viair system rocks. Powertank works, but just not as good as the full time on board system as the Viair dual compressor kit with the aux tank.
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air tank question

Is it possible to simply mount a storage tank with a hose...and fill it up with your in-garage compressor that seal it off or will it just leak out or not even possible with a valve of that sort.

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Is it possible to simply mount a storage tank with a hose...and fill it up with your in-garage compressor that seal it off or will it just leak out or not even possible with a valve of that sort.
The small storage tanks don't hold enough air to fill more then one tire. If you don't have an onboard compressor you'll be better of with a Co2 or N2 tank; 10lbs will service 15-20 35" tires from 5psi back to 25psi.

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