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Sleeves - Internal vs external

So I'm planning to sleeve, gusset and truss my front axle. I was gonna go with the Artic kit, but someone mentioned using an external sleeve would allow me to upgrade my axle shafts. What are the differences or advantages of one over the other?
I have only found one manufacturer for external sleeves, I think it was Rock Hard or someone like that. Are there any others? Does anyone's me an external sleeve and truss kitt that works together, or are there any external sleeve kits that will work with the Arctic Truss?

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Skip the sleeves altogether and do the Artec truss and gussets.


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Truss it no need to sleeve it

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I would honestly skip the sleeves. You're not going to get anything out of sleeves, internal or external, that you're not already getting with the truss. Plus internal sleeves will limit your axle options, as they take up space inside the tubes.
I've got the Artec JK Truss & armor kit (full truss, upper/lower C-gussets, welded LCA skids) and some beefy diff covers, and I beat the piss out of it on the rocks no sweat.

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If I skip the sleeves and just truss it, can I add the sleeves later? I was thinking about the Nitro sleeves which I think allow for upgraded axle options.

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There is no need for sleeves if you truss it.
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There is no need for sleeves if you truss it.
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If I skip the sleeves and just truss it, can I add the sleeves later? I was thinking about the Nitro sleeves which I think allow for upgraded axle options.
no need for the sleeves if you truss it but to answer your question, Yes, you can add sleeves after a truss...it would just be waste of time, money and effort.

If you truss you do whatever axle shafts you want

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I'll add to the trend. External sleeves are a big gain over internal sleeves. They add diameter and wall thickness. Internals only add wall thickness which doesn't do a whole lot except improve impact strength (dent resistance). But for the same or less work, truss adds more overall strength than external sleeves.

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I did Nitro's internal sleeve, since their the only one that accommodate 35 spline axle shafts, and burned them in using Synergys instructions. I also did Artecs front truss kit for the added rigidity. Possibly a little overkill, but hey that's fine with me

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Skip the sleeves altogether and do the Artec truss and gussets.
This! I am one of those who sleeved my axle thinking it was going to be bullet proof and it's still bent and broke.

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You don't want to use the hammer in sleeves after welding on the axle - they will never go in. It is already an intolerance fit. I don't even recommend gussets until after those sleeves go in.
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