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14 Bolt Dana 60 with 40s

I guess I can start a build thread starting with a stock 07 JKU. Have a 00to 06 14 bolt and a 99 to 04 super duty 60 have them both geared to 5.38 with Detroit lockers. have the arctic truss for both and front is all welded up and done ready to go in. Got a set of pro comp 40 to try out on trail ready bead locks. The rear I have to wait tell the meatalcloke lift gets in to set the pinion angle. I will post pictures soon.

So the first question i have is dose anyone have a base line pinion angle for a 4 door 14 bolt with a 3.5 inch lift so i can get it all tacked up?
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I just finished mine a few weeks ago and am on my way home from Moab now. I am running an 04 superduty Dana 60 and a '05 14 bolt with 41.5 pitbull rockers.





To set the rear pinion angle I finished the front enough to put the wheels and tires on and installed the front springs so the front could support the weight of the Jeep.

I then lowered the back till the frame was level and set the rear axle under the Jeep the center of the axle at the same height as the center of the front axle. Then I pointed the pinion at the transfer case to get the pinion angle.

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Looks good how much lift are you using? I'm shooting for 3.5 in did you stretch any?
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I am using Currie 4" springs and .75" spacers. The Currie 4" springs had a longer free length than any 6" spring I could find so I was able to use 12" Fox shocks without the springs coming loose with the shocks fully extended.

I moved the rear axle back about 1.5" and the front foward about an inch. I had to move the front frack bar bracket foward since the differential would hit it at full bump.
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thanks you jeep looks good
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friday I had a chance to work on the jeep so I pulled the stock axles out and got started. Still need drive shafts and to trim the rear fenders and body.






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looks awesome! can you post a parts list of what you used for each? shopping for my axles now and once they are in the garage the project starts!

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Front is a 02 ford super duty with the hubs redrilled to 8 on 6.5 Detroit with 5.38 gears
rear is a 2000 14 bolt with factory disk breaks 5.38 detrioit and ford studs.
Used the arctic truss front and rear front fit good rear had to do some cutting
and i used metalcloke 3.5 game changer and 17 inch trail ready beadlocks tires are pro comp 40s don't know how they will hold up but had to try them for the price.
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The arctic truss make it almost a bolt on swap.
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The arctic truss make it almost a bolt on swap.
So, aside from the axles price, and the truss kit, am I understanding correctly, it is essentially a bolt in project? I understand you have to weld in the truss kit, but after that, what else was included? Because most swaps I have seen require cutting of brackets and everything else. This would be great news for me if I'm understanding you correctly!
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I used the arctic truss kit and got the 14 bolt tone ring kit but have not put them on and don't think I will. The arctic link mounts are a little further apart than stock so you need links with some flex in the joints. I'm using the super duty tone rings with the dodge 2500 sensors . You also need to change the transfer case yolks. Im using the front cv drive shaft that came with the dana 60 on the rear had to to have it lengthened 3 inches.
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I used the arctic truss kit and got the 14 bolt tone ring kit but have not put them on and don't think I will. The arctic link mounts are a little further apart than stock so you need links with some flex in the joints. I'm using the super duty tone rings with the dodge 2500 sensors . You also need to change the transfer case yolks. Im using the front cv drive shaft that came with the dana 60 on the rear had to to have it lengthened 3 inches.
Refresh my memory, are the tone rings related to the ABS? Because I know that's a huge problem with axles swaps on the newer jeeps. Mines a 15, so unfortunately it doesn't like to play well with axle swaps...
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Refresh my memory, are the tone rings related to the ABS? Because I know that's a huge problem with axles swaps on the newer jeeps. Mines a 15, so unfortunately it doesn't like to play well with axle swaps...
Yes it is and i think with a 15 you need to have them all working. spend some time with the search on this form and there is a lot of good info. mine is a 07
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Yes it is and i think with a 15 you need to have them all working. spend some time with the search on this form and there is a lot of good info. mine is a 07
I have found what I need, which are the currie unit bearings, but they are close to $400 each. So I was asking if you had found something else that worked. The unit bearings are going to be more than the axles!

And you are correct, all four have to be working unfortunately.
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Yes it is and i think with a 15 you need to have them all working. spend some time with the search on this form and there is a lot of good info. mine is a 07
I( have a 2010 so the swap will be similar. where did you put your tone rings and sensors? back? front? both sides?

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I( have a 2010 so the swap will be similar. where did you put your tone rings and sensors? back? front? both sides?
Right now I'm using the stock ford front tone rings with a dodge 2500 sensor on the front . I have the Arctic 60 tooth tone rings for the rear but have not put them on and don't think I will I did the bypass switch for the esc so i have the lights on anyway.
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Right now I'm using the stock ford front tone rings with a dodge 2500 sensor on the front . I have the Arctic 60 tooth tone rings for the rear but have not put them on and don't think I will I did the bypass switch for the esc so i have the lights on anyway.
true! OK so i guess we don't need the rear then? or no all four points need rings and sensors theoretically. I thought i read that you only needed on ring and sensor on the 2011 and down years for the abs and everything to work and lights to stay off.

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I thought i read that you only needed on ring and sensor on the 2011 and down years for the abs and everything to work and lights to stay off.
One ring means speedo will work. Nothing else will and you will have a Christmas tree.


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One ring means speedo will work. Nothing else will and you will have a Christmas tree.
Thank you! Learning as i go from all of you! this is all helping a lot!

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Got the drive shaft in and went for a test drive, made it 100 yards ant the driver side unit bearing gave up have to get a new one tomorrow and have it redrilled friday
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Got the drive shaft in and went for a test drive, made it 100 yards ant the driver side unit bearing gave up have to get a new one tomorrow and have it redrilled friday
were they original unit bearings with the axle?

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were they original unit bearings with the axle?
Yes
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what bs did you go with on your wheels? I like that Trail Ready gives a few options.

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what bs did you go with on your wheels? I like that Trail Ready gives a few options.
3.5 bs
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