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PSC Hydro Assist

Anyone rip out the stock equipment and modify with the PCS system? Wondering what is involved in doing this modification? What Parts, any writeups, etc...

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post #2 of 83 Old 01-21-2010, 08:42 PM
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check this out....Bodyguy used this on his JK

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Yeah Phil has been running the same setup for over a year now and has no complaints. I had WTO rebuild my gear box and then mail it back with the ram, hoses and mounts. The PSC kit is overpriced


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Word.
I too am running the Redneck Ram. It's slick and I have no complaints. Matt is a cool maing, and provides great customer service!
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Too funny. The whole way to work I was thinking about PSC steering assist.... and viola. For $499!

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looks like a option. Need to figure that out more and whether I can have the jeep out of order for a few weeks while its in route to and from. So they take the stock equipment and add the hydro functions to it? Since this is new to me I was wondering if the stock equipment is sufficent enough to be modified.

Any pics of the stock setup modified?

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They have a complete kit, no downtime. Still half the cost of PSC's kit!!
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Too funny. The whole way to work I was thinking about PSC steering assist.... and viola. For $499!
$399 if you buy at EJS, or get a coupon there from Matt and buy later...
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booya! thanks.... no the question... is this over kill with only running 37s or does it really matter

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I would do it with 37" tires. I know Phil run 38's with it.

A full setup brand new is 699 is this discounted at EJS too? They also state this is the starting price not the final. Be intersted to understand a full setup and if it is really 699.00. That is a relly good deal.

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REDNECK RAM
Stage I... $
modify existing steering box

Stage II... $
modify existing steering box
mounting hardware (tabs weld on)
cylinder
(IF send steering pump internals, will modify for FREE http://westtexasoffroad.homestead.co...rsteering.html main fitting, flow piston, piston spring)
hoses
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Stage III... (Stage II plus refundable core $ )
$ typical CJ/TJ with no core exchange
$ plus refundable core $ for JK

modify existing steering box
mounting hardware (tabs weld on)
cylinder
(IF send steering pump internals, will modify for FREE http://westtexasoffroad.homestead.co...rsteering.html main fitting, flow piston, piston spring)
IF new pump ($ ) (not really needed UNLESS your pump is problematic)
hoses
rod ends

**NONE include larger reservoir

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REDNECK RAM $ ... modified box, hoses, cylinders, WELDED tabs, modified pump (New pump Add $ )

Note: REDNECK indicates larger reservoir not required with their system.


I personally modified the steering box on my '93 YJ adding fittings, SS lines, larger reservoir (which I believe is needed for the cylinder flow), welded hardware, and a fluid cooler. I didn't modify the pump which was apparent as idling into a grocery parking lot the steering was worse than not having power steering.

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so we have to send in our box? that means downtime? what is the refundable core thing about? is there no complete kit to put in?

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Either provide your box or pay the refundable core charge. Once you have their kit installed which means you removed your old box, you send in your old box for a refund of the core charge. Core charge varies as steering boxes vary between Jeep models. The JK currently has a high core charge as there are not many available in the salvage yards.
gotcha, i think. so I pay the 499+400 core charge, then install it, and send them my old box back, and then they credit me back the 400$?

is this a recommended upgrade for running 37's?

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is this a recommended upgrade for running 37's?
I've been running 37s for two years and manage, BUT... majority of the time I'm on dirt or rocks with dirt which allows some slippage. Even under conditions suggested, I often wished I had it and... I have order my assist, but not yet installed. If I were in MOAB I believe on solid rock I would had acquired immediately.

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Nice info guys, now I have enough to makea decision. I have a little time before getting and installing because I need to purchase several items first so there is a true need.

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NE, let me know if you want to look at a WTOR system installed. Thats what I'm running.


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NE, let me know if you want to look at a WTOR system installed. Thats what I'm running.
any thoughts on it? how do you like it?

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I like having the hydro assist a lot. For the most part its seamless and invisible to the driver. On the trail you never have to fight the wheel, and on the street it seems to relax things a tiny bit. My only gripe is the OEM pump doesn't like low (idle or lower) engine speeds. This may be an issue for my system only, I donno.


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My only gripe is the OEM pump doesn't like low (idle or lower) engine speeds. This may be an issue for my system only, I donno.
No problem with mine, there is a slight amount "slowness' at idle, but barely noticeable.

FWIW I've been very happy with the redneck system, no complaints at all and it works great, both on and off road.
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I'm also running mine with the stock pump and 40's. No problems at all!
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If you don't like the weld on tabs idea, Poly Performance makes a handy bolt on bracket for it. I've been running the PSC for quite some time. When I went for it, Redneck was only just getting into the JK thing and was talking a four week turn around. Just couldn't have the Jeep down for that long. Plus I needed to replace my PS pump anyway. Bump steer is just a distant memory and that assist sure takes the sweat out of a 40 point turn. Some of those cliff side roads are pretty narrow...

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If you don't like the weld on tabs idea, Poly Performance makes a handy bolt on bracket for it. I've been running the PSC for quite some time. When I went for it, Redneck was only just getting into the JK thing and was talking a four week turn around. Just couldn't have the Jeep down for that long. Plus I needed to replace my PS pump anyway. Bump steer is just a distant memory and that assist sure takes the sweat out of a 40 point turn. Some of those cliff side roads are pretty narrow...
dod you have a link to the bracket? I cant seem to find it.

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dod you have a link to the bracket? I cant seem to find it.

EDIT: found it.
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I purchased the bracket, never installed it, and am going to wait on the hydro assist. Anyone wanting one, I will work a deal for. It is in brand new condition.
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No problem with mine, there is a slight amount "slowness' at idle, but barely noticeable.

FWIW I've been very happy with the redneck system, no complaints at all and it works great, both on and off road.
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When using hydro assist on the road, does the wheel return to center if you let go like a regular power steering setup? I want it for the wheeling, but don't want bad road manners.
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GREAT STUFF! I will be calling and ordering one this week!


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