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What next for Stage 1.1?

Ok, so Stage 1 has been complete for a while.

Stage 1 is:
  • LoD stubby w/ stinger
  • Smittybilt XRC rear w/ carrier
  • TeraFlex 3" w/ 8 flexarms
  • Raceline RT233 Monster beadlocks
  • Goodyear MT/R Kevlar 35x12.5-17's

I'm contemplating my next purchase and I was some input. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know... do what makes me happy. I just want to hear some opinions on what others would do.

So, feel free to post up your input.


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Ok, that sucks. I can't do polls here at work.

Contenders for Stage 1.1 are:
  • Winch (looking at Smittybilt XRC8 Competition)
  • OBA (thinking ViAir Ultra Duty)


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Some decent rock rails and a winch....

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Actually, I had FLW rock rails on order and decided to canx them for other reasons. Now, that I'm ready to go forward with the Jeep, I'm not sure I want to put money into rails when I have the stock rails that're working fine for now. I'm pretty set on the winch or OBA.

I'll consider your vote for the winch.


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In order to give you accurate advice... we need to know how many "Stages" the complete build will be. Will all the stages be broken up into .1 increments? Will there be any sub-stages, such as 3.4A, or 5.214?
If you remove/replace/upgrade an item from a stage, will it be re-categorized under the same stage, be converted to a sub-stage on the spreadsheet, or will it be a new incremental stage of whatever stage you're on at that time?
Or will it be a "Version" of the item replaced? Ex; A different bumper replacing your existing bumper could be P1/S1.1A/V.2
Will you be designating stages with related mods, a "Phase"? If so, how many stages and or sub-stages will be in each phase. How many total phases will there be in the entire build?
These are very important things that need to be clear before you can build a Jeep!
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Winch is a good choice, comes in handy...

Also consider under carriage armor to protect you tranny and engine...

or sport cage to protect you if you tip it ....

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If you know that 100% of the time that you go wheeling, there will be someone with you who could winch you out, then go with the OBA first and save up for the winch. If you cant guarantee having a friend with a winch, nothing beats the sense of security knowing you could get yourself out of a stuck situation.
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In order to give you accurate advice... we need to know how many "Stages" the complete build will be. Will all the stages be broken up into .1 increments? Will there be any sub-stages, such as 3.4A, or 5.214?
If you remove/replace/upgrade an item from a stage, will it be re-categorized under the same stage, be converted to a sub-stage on the spreadsheet, or will it be a new incremental stage of whatever stage you're on at that time?
Or will it be a "Version" of the item replaced? Ex; A different bumper replacing your existing bumper could be P1/S1.1A/V.2
Will you be designating stages with related mods, a "Phase"? If so, how many stages and or sub-stages will be in each phase. How many total phases will there be in the entire build?
These are very important things that need to be clear before you can build a Jeep!
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Winch is a good choice, comes in handy...

Also consider under carriage armor to protect you tranny and engine...

or sport cage to protect you if you tip it ....
WINCH = GOOD
SKIDS = GOOD ( if you have factory skids they might get you by for awhile)

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If you know that 100% of the time that you go wheeling, there will be someone with you who could winch you out, then go with the OBA first and save up for the winch. If you cant guarantee having a friend with a winch, nothing beats the sense of security knowing you could get yourself out of a stuck situation.
I vote winch!

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skids then winch.

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I'd definetely vote for a winch first
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Winch.... or at least a snatch strap with some shackles.


You don't want to be "that guy"

then OBA/Skids etc..
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EVO C2 gussets
Winch w synthetic line & recovery gear
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if you don't have full skids.. I'd make that part of stage 1.1
I know you spend time at Rausch creek and those will definitely come in handy and hopefully save you some trouble and money in the long run.

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In order to give you accurate advice... we need to know how many "Stages" the complete build will be. Will all the stages be broken up into .1 increments? Will there be any sub-stages, such as 3.4A, or 5.214?
If you remove/replace/upgrade an item from a stage, will it be re-categorized under the same stage, be converted to a sub-stage on the spreadsheet, or will it be a new incremental stage of whatever stage you're on at that time?
Or will it be a "Version" of the item replaced? Ex; A different bumper replacing your existing bumper could be P1/S1.1A/V.2
Will you be designating stages with related mods, a "Phase"? If so, how many stages and or sub-stages will be in each phase. How many total phases will there be in the entire build?
These are very important things that need to be clear before you can build a Jeep!
Well, I'd planned on having sub-stages, but had tentatively decided on using a...

IA1a style breakdown...

Seriously... I guess I could call this stage 1.2 and call the floor mats stage 1.1!


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If you know that 100% of the time that you go wheeling, there will be someone with you who could winch you out, then go with the OBA first and save up for the winch. If you cant guarantee having a friend with a winch, nothing beats the sense of security knowing you could get yourself out of a stuck situation.
Well, I'd at least have a buddy there to yank me out with a strap.

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Winch is a good choice, comes in handy...

Also consider under carriage armor to protect you tranny and engine...

or sport cage to protect you if you tip it ....
I do not plan on flipping it. I'd say I'm fairly cautious and won't get that far over my head just yet. I'll rely on factory skids for a while. Skids will come down the road somewhere.

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skids then winch.
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Winch.... or at least a snatch strap with some shackles.


You don't want to be "that guy"

then OBA/Skids etc..
Yeah, I've got shackles and a strap for now, but I think the winch is gonna be next.

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Yeah, leanin' toward the Smittybilt XRC8 Comp.

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if you don't have full skids.. I'd make that part of stage 1.1
I know you spend time at Rausch creek and those will definitely come in handy and hopefully save you some trouble and money in the long run.
Thanks for all the comments.


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I would do skids before a winch, or both since the winch is cheap anyway.

Next would be a sleeve and gusset on the front axle. Stop all the possible and likely damage from ever happening.

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if you don't have full skids.. I'd make that part of stage 1.1
I know you spend time at Rausch creek and those will definitely come in handy and hopefully save you some trouble and money in the long run.
In my opinion you don't need a full skid system. Our JKs from the factory already have good trans and gas tank skids. But the oil pan and evap are exsposed and urgently need skids if you do anything other than mall crall!

My vote for stage 1.2:
1. Oil pan skid
2. PSC evap skid

Stage: 1.3:
1. Sleeve and gussets front axle
2. Re-gear 4:88-5:13
3. Crome-Molly axle shafts(front and rear)

Stage: 1.4:
1. Winch and/or new drivshafts if you have not done so already.

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Here is how I did it FWIW. I'm in the middle of stage 2 and will try to finish by end of year.

Stage 1: No particular order

teraflex bump stops
Windshield brackets from warrior
Crown Brakelines
Currie adj links (rear)
2tm bracket
JKS Quick Disconnects
optimax yellowtop
PIAA lights
OME Long Travel nitro shocks
Fox CD Res shocks (rear)
Steelie rims 16"
arb compressor
jks adj front and rear track bar
Or fab front stubby
Sliders by AtoZ
rear locker w.switch
superwinch efi9.0
Antenna
CB 75wx cobra handheld
Discovery Roof Rack
Currie Arms
35" cooper tires
4.88 gears w/install

Stage 2: In progress

Rock Hard - Harness Bar
Tuffy security enclosure
Slotted brake rotors (Outlaw Offroad)
Twisted Custom Seats (front)
Rocktrac Transfer Case

Still need to buy for stage 2:
Upgraded Driveshafts 1310 F 1350 R
Skid Package


Stage 3:

Fox CD Res shocks (front)
Fox Air bumps
Dana 44 front axle
Gussets
Enhanced Shafts CV type
Sport Cage (tbd)
4.88 front gears for rubi 44
Axle sleeves
Tube doors

I change the order based on whether I find a great deal on any of these. I might split stage 3 into two parts based on cost.

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