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post #1 of 17 Old 12-28-2009, 02:07 AM Thread Starter
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Poor man lift options

Before I start pm'ing Poly Performance, Rock Krawler, and Teraflex, i could use some opinions/info on a solid, upgradable poor man lift. I've been looking at the $500-$700 range coil spring lifts in the 3" range without control arms for now. I'm wondering how the change in geometry will affect my on/off road driving since I will be keeping the stock arms and this jeep takes me everywhere.

Also, I will need to swap out my Rubicon shocks. How do the above company's basic $100 (each) shocks compare with stock rubi shocks? I assume they are better, but I have no idea.

Any input is appreciated (vendors included).

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TF 2.5 coils you can fit 35's and upgrade with other parts as you go.
I sent a PM of my particular lift. Nevermind I just decided to post my current lift. I still like the TF lift as well. I have used their products and you will be happy either way!!

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agreed. That was/is my first intro JK lift. TF 2.5 coil lift with shocks. $600ish. I went with a front adjustable trac bac but it isn't needed. It has been a great kit and I roll 35s

Also in that range I would consider Rustys 3.25

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Here is the kit I installed on my Jeep. You don't need the body lift. I did this so I could run my 35's on the street only without new coils. It was also part of my plan to go 37's later. I will get lower control arms later. It's okay for now but will have better steering feel with the arms.

Rusty's 3.25" Basic lift. It came with adjustable track bars frt & rear, shocks, discos, coils. $550. Seemed a little too good to be true, but I think they will work just fine. I will need to get upper front control arms later but it is fine for now. I will also get a front drive shaft later. I have a backup in the shop just in case I need one before I get around to it on the mod list. The directions were really useless so you need some experience or a good helper to get everything installed. I started around 7pm yesterday and finished around 1:30 am this morning. I was by myself except for a fellow Jeeper stopped by to get me started and lend some tools. The spring compressor was essential. If you don't have one you can loan one out a Autozone. They make you put down a deposit and then credit it when you return the tool.

I got 4" on the front and about 3.5" in the rear. I think it looks fine and should give me good clearance with the 35's and the 1.25 BL. I got the track bar adjusted today, rotated the tires, and reset the steering wheel. The front end needs an alignment so I will likely do the driveway set to get it close.

I have also named the Jeep- "Copperhead" Although Jeep calls it orange, I think it looks more like a great copper color and is now a beast!


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Started -tiny tires just killed me


Next - Just the 1.25" BL ...street only





After- Now it is offically - Copperhead




This is the height of the Jeep at the seam of the Freedom panel on the front drivers door. Measures 77" tall at the roofline.


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This is the height of the Jeep at the seam of the Freedom panel on the front drivers door. Measures 77" tall at the roofline.

Sorry for the hi-jack, but more pics should be done this way. I have the 2.5 BB with 1 inch MORE Body Lift and running "so-called" 34's not 35's.


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I am runing a lift I put together on a budget and it does fine on and off road. Rustys 3.25 coils. $110 a pair. JKS adjustable trackbars. Rough Country 2.2 shocks. And Teraflex lower adjustable control arms.

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I started with the teraflex 2.5 coil lift, I installed front and rear jks adjustable trackbars at the same time. lift was nice but I did not like the dartiness in the steering due to the geometry change. for some reason when it settled there was a 1 and 5/8s lean that I tried figuring out for a while with joe at tereflex until the decision was made to swap out the coils for new ones and I decided to upgrade to 3" coils due to added bumpers and so on. I should have started at 3" it looks soo much better. I also added currie adjustable front lowers and it mad a world of difference. rockcrawler had came out with their 3.5 kit while I was going through all of that and wished that I had went that route at the time but have read some post where the joints/bushings seized up. so damned if you do damned if you don't type of deal. my lift now is fine and dandy but in the future I will probably upgrade to the 4.5 aev premium kit.
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JK 3.5 ENTRY LEVEL SYSTEM

I would take a look at Rock Krawler JK 3.5 ENTRY LEVEL SYSTEM. The Rock Krawler Wrangler JK 3.5Ē Entry Level System is the perfect starting point to get a little lift at a great value. It is easily upgraded to any other Rock Krawler kit. I say do it right the first time. I have had more then one lift, I started with a cheaper kit and that is what I got a cheap kit. Buy a GOOD LIFT and upgrade it as the funds are available.


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yup if that kit would have been out I would have went that route.
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I have the TF 3" and love it... But with the shocks it seems a little over your range. I would get the rockrawler kit and save up for blisteins.TF shocks are great but I want to upgrade them. I would strongly suggest the adj. Trackbar. I didn't get it at first and it moved my axle about 5"!!! With the rockrawler kit you'll also need brakelines.

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Thanks everyone for the quick responses.

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I have the TF 3" and love it... But with the shocks it seems a little over your range. I would get the rockrawler kit and save up for blisteins.TF shocks are great but I want to upgrade them. I would strongly suggest the adj. Trackbar. I didn't get it at first and it moved my axle about 5"!!! With the rockrawler kit you'll also need brakelines.
Good to know about the brakelines. Is that a rule for lifts over 2.5"?

I may only buy the kit for now and buy shocks later if it gets pricey. What is it about the TF shocks that makes you want to upgrade? I don't think I need fox shocks with reservoirs (YET ), but I would like to get a good 4-5 years out of them.

I've been looking closely at the Rockrawler 3.5 basic, the Teraflex 3" coil, and I saw in another thread where Pig said Poly Performance may be able to put something together for around $700. I've been looking closest at these companies after gaining an opinion of their customer service and quality on this forum over the last year or so.

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TF 2.5 coils you can fit 35's and upgrade with other parts as you go.
I sent a PM of my particular lift. Nevermind I just decided to post my current lift. I still like the TF lift as well. I have used their products and you will be happy either way!!
Your lift looks great and thanks for the info. I study these things for a long time before pulling the trigger and I don't know much about the Rusty's, but I will definitely look into it.

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I have the TF 3" and love it... But with the shocks it seems a little over your range. I would get the rockrawler kit and save up for blisteins.TF shocks are great but I want to upgrade them. I would strongly suggest the adj. Trackbar. I didn't get it at first and it moved my axle about 5"!!! With the rockrawler kit you'll also need brakelines.
You have a sick video in your sig. Does that jeep have a 3" TF lift?

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You have a sick video in your sig. Does that jeep have a 3" TF lift?
Yes sir, that's the 3" TF. It sits much higher than 3" and now that I don't own my a top or doors, got a very light stubby front bumper, it sits at about 5" ! I put 37's on and didn't need to trim the fenders... But I still trimmed them Just in case. As for the TF shocks, they are fine... Better than stock. Once you start adding lifts and stuff you want to keep upgrading... And I drove a jk with blisteins and they are much better! If you can't afford super great shocks... TF shocks should last you a few years, I just figure do it once and be done with it. As for customer service... TF has awesome customer service... Joe @ TF once sent me tools for free to reinstall my lift 2 years after I bought the lift... And I didn't even ask... He offered!

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Yes sir, that's the 3" TF. It sits much higher than 3" and now that I don't own my a top or doors, got a very light stubby front bumper, it sits at about 5" ! I put 37's on and didn't need to trim the fenders... But I still trimmed them Just in case. As for the TF shocks, they are fine... Better than stock. Once you start adding lifts and stuff you want to keep upgrading... And I drove a jk with blisteins and they are much better! If you can't afford super great shocks... TF shocks should last you a few years, I just figure do it once and be done with it. As for customer service... TF has awesome customer service... Joe @ TF once sent me tools for free to reinstall my lift 2 years after I bought the lift... And I didn't even ask... He offered!
Great info, thanks.

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Input please!!

For a 2009 Rubicon, I am wanting to run the Toyo MT's on 17x8 back rock wheels with 4.5'' BS. If I mount the 285/75R17(34.1x11.50), will they rub on fenders with 1'' BL and no suspension lift?

I also intend on installing xenon flat panel flares for added tire clearence. Perhaps a 1.75'' spacer lift with bumpstops(in addition to BL and flares)would gurantee no rubbing.

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Just did a 2" Pro Comp puck only lift. Useing all stock parts but the lift.
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