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post #1 of 17 Old 12-10-2013, 10:27 PM Thread Starter
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Need Teraflex hinged carrier advice

Hi guys (and gals),

Need some advice. I have a 2012 2 dr Rubicon. I have a 2.5" Teraflex lift and I'm in the market for some 35x12.5x17 MTR's to go on the stock rims. I have 1.75" spacers so I think I'm good to go for clearance underneath. I'll start trimming fenders if necessary but I'm getting the impression that I won't have to.

Now I need to figure out how to carry the spare. I've been reading all about the damage to the body where the tailgate hinges are connected when overloading the tailgate. I want to try to keep the budget down for this project but I don't want to cut corners and regret it later. Just want to double-check with anyone who upgraded to 35's and just bolted it right to the factory mount on the tailgate (if possible) to see how it's holding up. Also, will a 35" MTR on a factory rim fit on the factory mount on the tailgate? If not, I see the Tereflex 4838130 Kit that should make room.

If I definitely need to upgrade to account for the extra weight of the new tire, I like the idea of the Teraflex Hinged Carrier so that the spare is still mounted to the tailgate. Similar question as in the last paragraph, since I'll have the 35" MTR on a factory rim, can I get away with just the 4838100 Kit or do I need to spend the extra $$ on the 4838150 Kit?

Like I said, I'm trying to keep the budget down as much as possible and I want to put off a new rear bumper (for the same reason).

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post #2 of 17 Old 12-11-2013, 01:18 AM
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Although I don't have the teraflex hd hinge, I have read quite a few people that are satisfied with theirs. Although, with the second part number that you posted, for that price you are almost in the same price territory as the ACE Engineering rear bumper with tire carrier. http://www.aceengineeringandfab.com/...rier_p_83.html

I realize that budget is a concern, but I would have a hard time spending almost 700$ and keeping the stock plastic piece in place. I don't know about you, but I've smacked mine on the ground a few times. Although I haven't suffered any damage, I also realize that it is kind of inevitable. It doesn't really offer any real protection from damage without sacrificing itself in the form of dents to the corners of the bumper, which I'm sure you have seen. With the Teraflex, I would be eventually upgrading to a steel bumper without a tire carrier later on, which would be more expensive than just putting the ACE on to begin with. BigMike put two ACE bumpers on his new Jeep and they seem to be very nice pieces. My vote is save a little longer and upgrade to an actual durable steel example now, rather than having to do it later on. Just something else to consider.

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2 door with no lift ( 2.5" BB not installed yet ) and 35x12.50x17 Goodyear MTR's with 1.5" Spidertrax spacers on stock wheels. I simply used the TF adaptor for the spare tire. The MTR's are light so I am not too worried about the tailgate hinges ( when they go i'll order the TF carrier )


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post #4 of 17 Old 12-11-2013, 05:47 AM
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I have pretty much the same setup as you are going for except that I bought new wheels instead of keeping the stock wheels.

First of all I just bolted my new wheel and tire straight up to stock tire carrier until I figured out what I wanted to back there. My wheel and tire combo (mtr and level 8 wheels) weigh about 100 lbs. Which from my understanding is about 20-25ish pounds heavier than my stock rubi wheel and tire. I kept it like that all summer. I went wheeling twice and there is no damage to tailgate from having that extra weight on there. If you choose this route I would recommend it only be temporary and also extend you rubber plug things on the tail gate to minimize the play the tire will have. Also if you keep you stock wheel you will probably need a spacer.

Secondly when I chose a tire carrier I didn't want to add a whole lot of weight. So as much as I like ACE and their products (I own their rock sliders and love them) I was turned off by their rear bumper/tire carrier because it weighs ALOT. It can probably take a pretty good beating though. Because of my concer with weight I chose the teraflex hinge and just the hinge not with the tire carrier thing. I just bolted the stock carrier straight up to hinge and put my spare on...no problems. If you wanted the tire carrier to go along with it I don't think you would need a spacer but a spacer is cheaper than that carrier I'm pretty sure.

So that's where I'm at right now with my spare setup. I can't tell how durable that would be if I came off a rock and landed on my spare as that hasn't happened to me yet. But just by judging the strength of the hinge I don't think that would be much of an issue.

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If your bumper has the cutout for the spare tire you can use just the hinge. My LOD was straight across so I needed both. When you see the TF unit you will really 2nd guess wanting to use it though, that plastic is very flimsy!!
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Stock wheel and 35" MTR will work with the entire TF carrier/hinge, but the carrier portion is fully extended out. I ran it like that for a while with no issues, then got new wheels.

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Awesome! Thanks for all of the input guys! That's exactly what I was looking for.

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If your bumper has the cutout for the spare tire you can use just the hinge. My LOD was straight across so I needed both. When you see the TF unit you will really 2nd guess wanting to use it though, that plastic is very flimsy!!
Scubatech,

Which part was flimsy? The hinge or the wheel mount piece?
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I have the whole setup and am really happy with the teraflex setup. I ran my 35 on aftermarket wheel for almost 2 years with the stock carrier without any issues.

You could always buy the tire carrier kit now and add the hinge later if you feel the need. that would give you a stronger and adjustable carrier
http://www.amazon.com/Teraflex-48381...d+tire+carrier
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Awesome! Thanks for all of the input guys! That's exactly what I was looking for.



Scubatech,

Which part was flimsy? The hinge or the wheel mount piece?
The factory tire mount is really lite weight ABS plastic. The TF unit is outstanding in every way, I really like the unit.
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Which part was flimsy? The hinge or the wheel mount piece?
He is talking about the actual tire carrier part. This is nothing flimsy about the actual hinge itself. Its a pretty stout piece of aluminum!
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You can go with the 4838100 but you will need an adapter to use it with the stock wheel and a 35" tire. A 1055005 in conjunction with the 4838100 will do you right.


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I would recommend buying the TF hinge and tire mount together if you're going to do it. You'll have more adjustment and it will be a complete replacement without leaving any doubts in your mind while you're bumping down the highway/trail/ect.

I started out with a HEAVY 35" Toyo on my Hinged Carrier and then upgraded that to a HEAVY Mickey Thompson MTZ shortly after. I've had it on there for about 20K miles, many wheeling trips, and many, many opening and closings. No rattles or drama.

You should take shipping costs into account when comparing it to anyone's bumpers. Most vendors (myself included) will beat that price posted above and offer you free shipping on the TeraFlex carriers too.

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My buddy Mat getting a road soda in this one. LOL





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I agree with Marcus on this one (not that his ego needs more stroking)! When I started my build I was turned on to this set up & I still say it's one of my best upgrades. Spend the extra money & buy the complete package all at once. The peace of mind in not having to worry about your wheel/tire peeling off is worth it. The combo handles my Nitto 35" no problem & no squeaks.

That being said, I had one of the original carriers & mine started to crack. Thanks to the folks on JKO I knew what to look for, called Teraflex & they took care of it by sending me a new carrier with absolutely ZERO issue. All I had to do was send some pics to show I wasn't scamming free parts! Even when I got all retard-strong & snapped off a bolt I was able to call them up & they sent me replacements for FREE since I think they felt sorry for me.

Top notch product & top notch customer service! Teraflex is not paying me to jerk them off here, nor is my Jeep completely outfitted by them. In my defense, it's outfitted by whatever Marcus is able to get me to buy.
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I just got my TeraFlex complete kit installed. I am not much of a wrench-er but the adjustments of the carrier are obviously well thought out even to me. The overall quality is solid. In my case I wasn't ready for steel bumpers with attached carrier due to weight and cost, but was ready for 35/12.5 R17 MTR's K. This gave me the ideal solution. I found that in the research I did that good steel bumpers with carriers were as much as and in lots of cases more than the same brand steel bumper with no carrier plus the cost of the TeraFlex gate and carrier.

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Just as a thought (not trying to hijack here) has anyone came off a rock and landed on their spare tire with this carrier? Just curious on how it would hold up to this kind of abuse compared to a bumper mounted carrier.

I need to know if I have to worry about the possibility of this screwing up the tub of my jeep if this situation comes up!
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Great input guys. Thanks again.
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Two of my jeeps have the TF carrier. Both are gusseted to reinforce the tire mount. A little bumping and dragging of the tire is no problem.



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