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Repeated Power Steering Pump Failure

anybody got any opinions on why i am burning through power steering pumps? I am searching the interweb, but all that turns up is add a cooler or some stock pumps a just duds. I had a cooler on this last one and it only lived about 7 months... and this is pump 5 or 6... so I don't think it is a random manufacturing defect...
The fluid was flushed after the first pump failure as well.


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I had no idea you were having these issues. I agree that it's probably not the pump that is the problem. I'd start by lifting the front tires off the ground and seeing if you can turn the wheels left/right by hand and see if you can identify any binding. If everything checks out there then I'd be inclined to say you have a fluid restriction in your PS gear that is putting undo strain on the pump.

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Good insight Carl...this is actually more to help out Will but i am having similar issues and would love to get to the bottom of this. I am on my third pump and Will has gone through more.....with the tires off the ground everything is smooth and nothing binding.


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Are you holding it at the stops for too long or perhaps another driver is doing so (like my wife did in mine - she was stuck in 2' of snow and had it cranked all the way with the accelerator floored.
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Nope...that's not happening


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Stock pumps? Hydro assist? How are they failing?
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Are you sure they are burning up?
Or is the high pressure bypass valve getting stuck open?
If it has the slightest piece of trash in the fluid it can stick the valve open and the pump wont work.
You can Check to see if it springs back when pushed down if its off vehicle.
Or with engine running pinch/ crimp the feed line to pump down with some needle nose, the pump will make a loud grinding noise if its still pumping.

I thought I was burning up pumps and it ended up valve was getting stuck open.
I had to completely disassemble and clean everything. Box, reservoir, lines, and pump.
Does not take but the smallest particle to make it stick open. I run a filter now.

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Another place to check is the supply line from the reservoir to the pump. If it has any kind of pin hole leaks it can suck air and ruin pumps.

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Stock pumps? Hydro assist? How are they failing?
stock pumps, no hydro, 35" MT's.....pumps either stop pumping, have had steering come in and out at low rpm's, one leaked fluid at pump shaft, some failed with no noise and some failed after making whining noise that fluctuated with rpm's


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Are you sure they are burning up?
Or is the high pressure bypass valve getting stuck open?
If it has the slightest piece of trash in the fluid it can stick the valve open and the pump wont work.
You can Check to see if it springs back when pushed down if its off vehicle.
Or with engine running pinch/ crimp the feed line to pump down with some needle nose, the pump will make a loud grinding noise if its still pumping.

I thought I was burning up pumps and it ended up valve was getting stuck open.
I had to completely disassemble and clean everything. Box, reservoir, lines, and pump.
Does not take but the smallest particle to make it stick open. I run a filter now.
latest pump that is on Jeep runs most of time, sometimes steering goes out and when looking in the reservoir there is no fluid movement. When the feed line was pinched nothing changed....drove the Jeep with no power assist for approx. 15 min the all of a sudden the pump started working. It is now intermittent at idle but in all scenarios the pump is quiet with no whine?


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Rottenbelly....what are you using to filter the fluid


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Rottenbelly....what are you using to filter the fluid
Just a small inline filter right now till I get the PSC resi with the one built in.
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If its going in and out its seems to me like its the valve inside. Sometimes mine would quit and I could tap on it and it would start back up.

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