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Replacing all my control arms on my 2012 JKU. Which do you guy's recommend & why?

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Any arm with a JJ
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Rock Krawler. Not sure I need to explain, but black, big, thick & solid. I have the 2nd gen ends and they seem fine, but the new ones are supposed to be even better.

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Thx guys. How long do those Johnny Joints last?

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Thx guys. How long do those Johnny Joints last?
I think it depends on care and use, but mine are almost 2 years old with no issues. When mine wear out I will probably replace the joints with MetalCloak duroflex joints. I believe the MetalCloak arms are hollow, so no go for me and they are fucking ugly.

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MC's are new but the JJ's are tried and true and will last a very long time.

I did not care for RK's gen 2 but their new joint looks amazing as well.


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I think it depends on care and use, but mine are almost 2 years old with no issues. When mine wear out I will probably replace the joints with MetalCloak duroflex joints. I believe the MetalCloak arms are hollow, so no go for me and they are fucking ugly.
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RK, synergy or metal cloak..

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Ed, where in Maryland are you. I wouldn't mind throwing some wrenches at your rig when you're ready to install everything, if schedule permits.

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In Balto. (city county line off of Ritchie Hwy). My neighbor and I do all the work, he has all the tools and lifts. But if needed I would not hesitate to give you a call. Just getting into the Jeep thing and luv it. We just did a lift on his friends 2012 2 dr. Not to bad. That was our 1st install. I could probably use your assistance on the BJ's when the time comes if your up to it.

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I run metal cloak. They are awesome. No one ever said, wow gold control arms? All I hear is nice ride.

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Assistance on BJ's. I lol'd at that sentence.

I just put MC arms, all 8, on my 2 door. They are truly a difference in ride quality. The bumps over the road are almost non existent, including man hole covers that are not level with the road.

I didn't expect to feel this much better ride, but I have to say so far I am a believer. Hopefully they hold up well.


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Metalcloak for me to. So far best arms I've run. Very smooth on road and the flex is amazing without any binding.
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Thx guys. How long do those Johnny Joints last?
I have replaced all my joints in my Tera flex arms once and sometimes twice, including the front trackbar. Except the rear trackbar which is a currie and is a JJ BOTHENDS. I have not replaced that and it doesn't show any sign of sloppiness yet!

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Yeah I did not think that one thru.

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Rock Krawler. Not sure I need to explain, but black, big, thick & solid. I have the 2nd gen ends and they seem fine, but the new ones are supposed to be even better.
Is this your criteria for control arms or something else....maybe you better explain?

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FWIW I went with Metalcloak arms. I read a very intriguing review by user name Imped about the duraflex joints and decided I had to have them. Since I needed arms as well it made sense to get the arms and the joints together. I have no personal experience with them yet as they literally just arrived today.

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I have the new Rock Krawler joints on my LCAs. They are built very well. Machined housings with rebuild able joints offer lifetime expectancy. they are guaranteed for life but there is no way you could bend them. these things are stout.

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"Here are the stats on those! For JK lower control arms; they have the following features!

* Fully machined chromoly housings versus as forged surfaces
* Obviously greasable, but they are still very well sealed from the enviroment. They have a grease groove machined in them like our current ones.
* up to +/- 30 degrees of misalignment for a total of up 60 degrees (crazy we know - this is the big thing we were after)
* Larger bushings and ball centers for improved ride quality and improved durability
* Machined to accept 9/16 hardware (That is right, we listen to our customers and Jeep community. It just takes time to go through development, testing and get them into production.)
* Heck, they just look better! This is our 10th year in business! Time to step up the game! The more enviroments we test in, the better we want to be. In our new facility we have new machines, so why not take advantage of them! Game on.

These are true spherical joints, not want to be spherical joints with off-road ability that cannot be matched by any other rebuildable, spherical, take apart joint!

The only draw back is, a tool is now required to adjust pre-load or rebuild them. "

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No experience yet, but had decided a few months back on Metal Cloak when I get to that stage. Good to hear all the great reviews on them. And as far as the "ugly" factor, that's what paint is for. But to me, they look fine. What I'm after is the ride and the flex.

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In Balto. (city county line off of Ritchie Hwy). My neighbor and I do all the work, he has all the tools and lifts. But if needed I would not hesitate to give you a call. Just getting into the Jeep thing and luv it. We just did a lift on his friends 2012 2 dr. Not to bad. That was our 1st install. I could probably use your assistance on the BJ's when the time comes if your up to it.
That's not far. Pm me when you're ready and I'll help out with the Jeep. You're on your own with the ladies.

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Is this your criteria for control arms or something else....maybe you better explain?
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I have the metal cloak arms with duroflex joints on my JK. Rides great and does well offroad. No complaints here. As a matter of fact, I like the joints so much that I went with the Teraflex long arm and am using the metal cloak duroflex inners in the teraflex housing. Not rolling yet but I have high hopes.

Use ONLY the metal cloak grease with their joints. I have not yet had to rebuild one but they look very simple.

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I have the new Rock Krawler joints on my LCAs. They are built very well. Machined housings with rebuild able joints offer lifetime expectancy. they are guaranteed for life but there is no way you could bend them. these things are stout.

from RK
"Here are the stats on those! For JK lower control arms; they have the following features!

* Fully machined chromoly housings versus as forged surfaces
* Obviously greasable, but they are still very well sealed from the enviroment. They have a grease groove machined in them like our current ones.
* up to +/- 30 degrees of misalignment for a total of up 60 degrees (crazy we know - this is the big thing we were after)
* Larger bushings and ball centers for improved ride quality and improved durability
* Machined to accept 9/16 hardware (That is right, we listen to our customers and Jeep community. It just takes time to go through development, testing and get them into production.)
* Heck, they just look better! This is our 10th year in business! Time to step up the game! The more enviroments we test in, the better we want to be. In our new facility we have new machines, so why not take advantage of them! Game on.

These are true spherical joints, not want to be spherical joints with off-road ability that cannot be matched by any other rebuildable, spherical, take apart joint!

The only draw back is, a tool is now required to adjust pre-load or rebuild them. "
Our new Pro Series or Krawler Joints were developed for racing and extreme applications, but also provide more vibration isolation as compared to previous units. These new joints combined with our bushing end at the frame provide the most amount of vibration isolation in the industry for arms featuring spherical joints. Not to mention, the high clearance feature, lifetime warranty and the fact that they are made in the USA.

Hope that helps and good luck with your build.

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I'm running the full Metalcloak game changer and love it. Joints are very smooth and quiet for daily driving. And the zinc coating is great if you live in a cold climate and they salt the shit out of the roads.

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