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CRITICAL: Solutions for Saving Off-Road Recreation

Solutions for Saving Off-Road Recreation -- Uniting and Banding Together (UBT)

by Del Albright

Part I: Uniting and Banding Together (UBT)....The Future of OHV Recreation Depends Directly on Us! Our freedoms are at stake in the backcountry...off-roaders and backcountry explorers need to band together and unite like never before because there are just too many people who don't understand or appreciate what we do; and they want to close us down! STOP the madness; KEEP the fun alive; and be part of the solution with me...Ignited We Stand like our friends from SEMA say. Get ignited and stand with your fellow off-roaders and outdoor recreationists -- and realize no one else is really out there doing it for you! Learn about why your trails and access are in jeopardy. Learn why the wrong politicians can ruin what we have. Get ignited.

Part II: Uniting and Banding Together (UBT) in our sports -- Our Fight Back Strategies Must Evolve! Much like an off-road rig grows and evolves over time, our fight back strategies to keep our trails open have to evolve. We must take a national perspective and apply large scale solutions at the local level, with local clubs and folks who are vested in their sport and their area. But we must do this together; united; banded together; and become members of every group that makes sense to us. Join those groups that make sense to you and who are actively fighting for you -- even if they are not perfect. Start with the BlueRibbon Coalition (BRC) at http://www.blueribboncoalition.org. Join up!


Part III: Uniting and Banding Together (UBT), Get in the Game or Give Me Your Keys! Getting in the game, even if you have to get angry to do it, is ok with me. Here's a blog from an angry landuse partner who wants the keys to your 4x4/OHV. He's got a plan; and he's got a statement, albeit it's a bit harsh for some, it is worth reading because so much of what he says is true. Read Jerry's blog right here: http://givemeyourohvkeys.blogspot.com/.

Part IV: Uniting and Banding Together (UBT);Firing Volunteers. Harsh words, I know - to fire a volunteer (or paid landuse/organizational person for that matter) is a huge step we don't like to take, but the time is now to take it where needed. If your club or group has someone bringing everyone else down, and if you can't fix them, FIRE THEM! Yes, try to fix them first, of course. But some egos can't be overcome and some volunteers will never quite fit in or follow the will of the majority. They gotta go if you expect to survive as a group, or if you expect to keep the sport alive. Whatever you do, do not let saving trails take a second seat to someone saving face.
Here is more on filtering out the "possibles, partners and poops."
http://www.delalbright.com/Articles/club_problems.htm.

Stay tuned for more on this plan to save our sports and our trails. Please feel free to share it, post it, and comment on what else we can do....it's up to us.
In the meantime, please visit these helpful websites:
http://www.blueribboncoalition.org
http://www.delalbright.com
http://www.muirnet.net

Del

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Solutions for Saving Off-Road Recreation -- Uniting and Banding Together (UBT)

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Part I: Uniting and Banding Together (UBT)....The Future of OHV Recreation Depends Directly on Us! Our freedoms are at stake in the backcountry...off-roaders and backcountry explorers need to band together and unite like never before because there are just too many people who don't understand or appreciate what we do; and they want to close us down! STOP the madness; KEEP the fun alive; and be part of the solution with me...Ignited We Stand like our friends from SEMA say. Get ignited and stand with your fellow off-roaders and outdoor recreationists -- and realize no one else is really out there doing it for you! Learn about why your trails and access are in jeopardy. Learn why the wrong politicians can ruin what we have. Get ignited.

Part II: Uniting and Banding Together (UBT) in our sports -- Our Fight Back Strategies Must Evolve! Much like an off-road rig grows and evolves over time, our fight back strategies to keep our trails open have to evolve. We must take a national perspective and apply large scale solutions at the local level, with local clubs and folks who are vested in their sport and their area. But we must do this together; united; banded together; and become members of every group that makes sense to us. Join those groups that make sense to you and who are actively fighting for you -- even if they are not perfect. Start with the BlueRibbon Coalition (BRC) at http://www.blueribboncoalition.org. Join up!


Part III: Uniting and Banding Together (UBT), Get in the Game or Give Me Your Keys! Getting in the game, even if you have to get angry to do it, is ok with me. Here's a blog from an angry landuse partner who wants the keys to your 4x4/OHV. He's got a plan; and he's got a statement, albeit it's a bit harsh for some, it is worth reading because so much of what he says is true. Read Jerry's blog right here: http://givemeyourohvkeys.blogspot.com/.

Part IV: Uniting and Banding Together (UBT);Firing Volunteers. Harsh words, I know - to fire a volunteer (or paid landuse/organizational person for that matter) is a huge step we don't like to take, but the time is now to take it where needed. If your club or group has someone bringing everyone else down, and if you can't fix them, FIRE THEM! Yes, try to fix them first, of course. But some egos can't be overcome and some volunteers will never quite fit in or follow the will of the majority. They gotta go if you expect to survive as a group, or if you expect to keep the sport alive. Whatever you do, do not let saving trails take a second seat to someone saving face.
Here is more on filtering out the "possibles, partners and poops."
http://www.delalbright.com/Articles/club_problems.htm.

Stay tuned for more on this plan to save our sports and our trails. Please feel free to share it, post it, and comment on what else we can do....it's up to us.
In the meantime, please visit these helpful websites:
http://www.blueribboncoalition.org
http://www.delalbright.com
http://www.muirnet.net

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Do you ever wonder why most here don't respond to your posts or engage you in Land Use issues?

Just so I get your position right, you are in favor of anointing yourself King of reasonableness, and supporting others in the same egocentric roles in an attempt to save trails by sorting through the subjects; attempt to fix the fixable, and flush the rest. Gotcha - good plan, how is it working out?

This posts may shed light on the leadership mess going on with the Rubicon Trail, of which you appear to have left an inDELable mark.

So, is this the cleansing policy of Blue Ribbon Coalition too, or are they prepared to just smile and take anyone's money?
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So, is this the cleansing policy of Blue Ribbon Coalition too, or are they prepared to just smile and take anyone's money?
Craig, this "Plan" is from me, not BRC. This is my idea for a way to unite more, band together, and get our ranks sorted out so we're all fighting the same fight. Not sure where you got confused. If you know someone who travels as much in the landuse circles as me, or someone who deals with as many clubs as I do nationwide, or someone who has 40 years of experience doing this landuse stuff like I do, let me know who they are and we'll get them to post up some thinking as well.

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Craig, this "Plan" is from me, not BRC. This is my idea for a way to unite more, band together, and get our ranks sorted out so we're all fighting the same fight. Not sure where you got confused. If you know someone who travels as much in the landuse circles as me, or someone who deals with as many clubs as I do nationwide, or someone who has 40 years of experience doing this landuse stuff like I do, let me know who they are and we'll get them to post up some thinking as well.

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If you truly are not sure where I got confused, re-read your post.

Speaking of confusion, as an example, I would bet that 90% of the JK owners on here don't know you from Boo. 100% - 4 in Nor Cal likely have no idea of your early involvement in the Rubicon Trail. 100%-2 likely don't know of your recent involvement in the FOTR/RTF leadership meeting. So frankly, listing your resume' as a form of underpinning your ideas here comes off as boorish.

If you want to bring people together in common cause, drop, and use your claimed widespread influence, to have others drop the speak about how your ideas or theirs, are the only right ones because you/they care more or have been around the longest.

"so we're all fighting the same fight." Who defines the fight or the proposed outcome? The cause will get all the fighters that it can use, once some great leader can clearly articulate what it is, specifically, that he is asking, not demanding, from his subjects.

Divisive trail politics appear to be a new growth industry. Doesn't surprise me much since donated trail funds are now being used to purchase private property.

You know where I stand Del, and as yet, I don't consider you an enemy, but it won't be business as usual, as I am prepared for a lively debate.

Thanks for responding.
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Doesn't surprise me much since donated trail funds are now being used to purchase private property.
Craig or Del, can you expand on this? Why are these donated trail funds being used to purchase private property?

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