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Unhappy I Broke My Rear Axle Shaft Seal. What Do I Need To Fix It?

I destroyed my rear axle shaft seal along with the outside ring while putting everything back together after a re-gear. The bearing appears to be okay.

What exactly do I need to purchase to fix my problem here? Are any special tools required to remove everything off of the shaft and re-install the new parts?


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How did you manage to do that?

From what I have been told you have to cut that retainer ring and bearing off unless you have a press set up that will allow you to get it off. Then you have to press on the new bearing and retainer ring, not to sure if the seal is pressed on as well.
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I was reckless inserting the shaft. I starting wrenching the four bolts of the seal retainer and noticed it was particularly tough. I'm upset I allowed my self to do this.

So, it sounds like this isn't a simple DIY job if you don't have a press. I'm thinking I might take this opportunity just upgrade the shafts. Do new shafts come with the pinion seal and bearings installed?

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So, it sounds like this isn't a simple DIY job if you don't have a press. I'm thinking I might take this opportunity just upgrade the shafts. Do new shafts come with the pinion seal and bearings installed?
Some do, I don't believe most come pressed together.

And the pinion seal is behind the yoke on the pinion.

Did you do the regear yourself?

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You're right. Sorry, long weekend.

I pulled the axle out and took everything apart. Someone I know did the re-gear. I was putting it back together when this happened.

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Yep, good time as any to go ahead and upgrade those axle shafts. Keep the stockers for trail spares.

I have gone both routes with the rear axle shafts: pressed the bearings and retainer rings on myself on one set, and paid NR4x4 to do them and ship me another set of axle shafts complete, ready for plug-n-play. The $60 to have them show up to my door complete was well worth it, IMO.

If you have a press, it wouldn't be a big deal to DIY. But, not having the right tools means you pay a little more to have somebody else do it correctly for you.



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I'm pricing things out today. Jeep wanted $100 just for the parts. NAPA was $60. Then, I would have to have a shop remove the existing parts and re press on the new ones.

Northridge has a set for $470 pre-pressed. It's a lot of money, but I don't want to put more money into my current shafts if I may eventually replaced them anyway.

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FYI Napa and some other stores usually do axle bearing pressing. Putting the few bucks into them isn't a bad idea, it'd be nice to have spares. You can't get home without a rear axle shaft..

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True. It'd be good to have at least a single spare. The nice thing about the non-Rubi 44 is the identical shafts for each side.

If I bought a new set, I would still have that one spare.

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True. It'd be good to have at least a single spare. The nice thing about the non-Rubi 44 is the identical shafts for each side.

If I bought a new set, I would still have that one spare.
Yes true, I didn't recall if it was a Rubi or not.

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FYI Napa and some other stores usually do axle bearing pressing. Putting the few bucks into them isn't a bad idea, it'd be nice to have spares. You can't get home without a rear axle shaft..
Says who? Couldn't you just pull the rear shaft, put it in 4-Hi, and drive it as a FWD?

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The wheel mounts to studs on the shaft in the rear.

No axle means no wheel.

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Says who? Couldn't you just pull the rear shaft, put it in 4-Hi, and drive it as a FWD?
Says the force of gravity.

How do you plan on holding the wheel on?

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Says who? Couldn't you just pull the rear shaft, put it in 4-Hi, and drive it as a FWD?
Sure if you think you can drive on three wheels. Maybe if you put something real heavy on the opposite front corner....

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lol you guys not watch "One Car Too Far"? You strap a log where the wheel used to be and use it like a ski to get home.
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If the shaft was broke couldnt you just cut it off close to the end, re install and put your wheel on?
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If the shaft was broke couldnt you just cut it off close to the end, re install and put your wheel on?
You'd probably destroy that outer bearing pretty quickly. It'd get you off the trail, but may not make it home.

You'd need a cutoff wheel of some sort, the hardness of that steel would work over most saw blades.


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^^^
Would you also have to have the ability to lock the rear dif in that situation?

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Would you also have to have the ability to lock the rear dif in that situation?
Any locker wouldn't care, you'd need a tuner or manual over-ride for a Rubicon e-locker. But yes, any open diff wouldn't allow you to get anywhere like that.

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Trust me, you can get home when you pop a rear axle shaft. Usually when they fail, they break clost to the carrier side, (usually where the splines end). What you nimrods are forgetting is we have rear disc brakes that keep the axle from walking out.

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. What you nimrods are forgetting is we have rear disc brakes that keep the axle from walking out.
That hasn't been a concern in this thread, at all, but that's quite an awesome obvious observation you've made. Just how far "did you get home" with it running on the one bearing was the main concern. Sometimes "getting home" is 4 hours on the highway. Nimrod.

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You could also strap a 6 inch around log to your suspension in place of the broken wheel and half shaft and get home like in "One Car to Far" LOL LOL LOL

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Trust me, you can get home when you pop a rear axle shaft. Usually when they fail, they break clost to the carrier side, (usually where the splines end). What you nimrods are forgetting is we have rear disc brakes that keep the axle from walking out.
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Guys the benefit of pressed in bearings is that the axle won’t walk out like a c-clip axle setup, it will wobble but it won’t fall out, so you can get to camp or home as long as it not a long drive. I have driven maybe 10 miles or so on a broken axle.

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Guys the benefit of pressed in bearings is that the axle won’t walk out like a c-clip axle setup, it will wobble but it won’t fall out, so you can get to camp or home as long as it not a long drive. I have driven maybe 10 miles or so on a broken axle.
Who has said it will fall out in this thread?

10 miles doesn't get me to a grocery store from my house. Won't do me much good at a park. The bearing holding up is by concern.


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