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post #1 of 22 Old 12-29-2011, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
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PSC Brawler Lite Install

Hello everyone. I just purchased a PSC Brawler Lite with Brawler Bar front bumper and was wondering about install. Used the search function and found a couple guys had installed this bad boy, but didn't provide much detail.

Anyone care to share their experience in installing this bumper? How long did it take? What tools were needed? Is it a 1 person job?

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I did mine, took a couple of hours. Take off your stock bumper and fog lights. Before you put your bumper on put the fog lights in on lift it up and bolt in place. It's pretty simple, not real heavy. Good luck


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It's a super easy install. You just need basic hand tools (can't remember which ones, download the instructions). One person is doable, but two is always better
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Better to have two people. You need one person to hold your while you're wrenching.
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Fairly easy install my husband I did mine and didn't take too long

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simple install, did mine alone. But I agree with "someone to hold your" choice of beverage while wrenching . It's a great looking bumper.
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I did the install myself...
What I can tell you is that the expectation is you will reuse the stock screws for the fogs. Ummm yep! right into the steal which strips them if you actually do it. Not a big deal if you don't plan to take them out for any reason lets say one brakes. Recommend you find a better way like drill the holes just a little bigger to put real bolts in or thread it to put in screw. I am sure you can come up with a bunch of ways that work better. (Almost anyone can and I think it is kind of shitty that it is put on the customer but just my .02 since cheaper bumpers like rugged ridge set it up and send you bolts. Few cents and a little time goes a long way to the customer...)
Install the fogs before you install the bumper it is complicated if you do it the other way.
I found that the bottom inside nut on both driver and passenger side doesn't snug for whatever reason. You may want to add another washer or something to allow for it to snug up. It gets tight but spins like it is stripped when you get close to getting it 100%.
Have fun painting! Near impossible to get paint in everywhere and you have to spend extra time to get all the fun stickers off of the bare steal. In my case the bare steal had nice rust on it (more then the fingerprint kind) and ruff spots; which was a Ton O Fun! Thanks PSC! I frikin gave up and sent it off somewhere.

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did u get the skid plat that bolts to the bottom of the bumper?

if so there are 9 bolts that that attach the skid to the bumper. i had issue with the two bolts directly under where the bumper mounts making contact not allowing the bumper to slide all the way to get the nuts on the bolts. i beat my head against it so much trying to figure it out.

i took those two bolts out and shazam. now mine is held together with 7 bolts... no big deal.
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Thanks for all the replies. I'm looking to get this started as soon as PSC ships me the damn thing!

To answer the above question, I did not by the optional skid plate. I certainly would have if funds, at the moment, permitted. I've heard that installing that piece requires some modification (crash bar, maybe?).
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Thanks for all the replies. I'm looking to get this started as soon as PSC ships me the damn thing!

To answer the above question, I did not by the optional skid plate. I certainly would have if funds, at the moment, permitted. I've heard that installing that piece requires some modification (crash bar, maybe?).
you have to trim part of the crash bar off for proper fitment. i just went to my powdercoaters who also do fab work and got them to cut the entire crash bar off and grind them down smooth.
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I've heard that installing that piece requires some modification (crash bar, maybe?).
A sledge hammer modified my crash bar enough to make for an easy install.

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A sledge hammer modified my crash bar enough to make for an easy install.
Really? What exactly did you do to the crash bar? The skid just bolts onto the brawler lite, right?
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Really? What exactly did you do to the crash bar? The skid just bolts onto the brawler lite, right?
Yes but you have to trim the crash bar on the ends! Also if I remember you cannot use two of the bolts that hold them together ( have a rubi not sure if that is why )

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Anybody put a winch on one of these yet? I just got the bumper and Warn M8000--planning to install on Saturday.
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Anybody put a winch on one of these yet? I just got the bumper and Warn M8000--planning to install on Saturday.
Should be pretty straightforward. Get the Poison fairlead mount plate, and all of the predrilled holes should line up with the mounting holes in your winch. Then, run the cables under or through the grille and to the battery and you're set.

Should take about 10-15 minutes at the most.
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Anybody put a winch on one of these yet? I just got the bumper and Warn M8000--planning to install on Saturday.
Yes. Just get the fair lead like said above and it's an easy install. You might want a second person just to help line up the holes. Assuming the bumper is installed.


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I'm guessing you have long since installed your bumper, but I thought I'd chime in (for others looking to purchase this bumper)...

I just installed my bumper and winch. I thought the winch would come with a fairlead mount but it didn't. I don't think that's news to most people - just my first time and something I overlooked.

Anyway, the instructions can be found on the PSC website. It was a fairly easy install. I hit only a few snags - I couldn't use two of the nuts/bolts that attach the skid plate because they hit the frame. Also, I had to widen the holes on the frame/bumper mount of the Jeep on the passenger side - they didn't properly align with the bumper. I believe that tolerance issue is with my Jeep, not the bumper (just to be clear).

If you decide to use their skid plate, things are just slightly more tricky - you must either cut off the crash bar, or trim it down and drill holes into it to fasten the skid plate to it. I opted to just cut the crash bar off. I think that the reason behind drilling the holes and bolting the skid plate to it is because it would rattle and vibrate unless it has been snugged against it (just a guess).

As for the winch mounting, the passenger side - front bolt was the trickiest of the 4. The passenger side rear bolt was also tricky but much easier than the front bolt. The two on the driver's side were a cinch.










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I'm guessing you have long since installed your bumper, but I thought I'd chime in (for others looking to purchase this bumper)...

I just installed my bumper and winch. I thought the winch would come with a fairlead mount but it didn't. I don't think that's news to most people - just my first time and something I overlooked.

Anyway, the instructions can be found on the PSC website. It was a fairly easy install. I hit only a few snags - I couldn't use two of the nuts/bolts that attach the skid plate because they hit the frame. Also, I had to widen the holes on the passenger side - they didn't properly align with the bumper. I believe that tolerance issue is with my Jeep, not the bumper (just to be clear).

If you decide to use their skid plate, things are just slightly more tricky - you must either cut off the crash bar, or drill holes into it to fasten the skid plate to it. I opted to just cut the crash bar off. I think that the reason behind drilling the holes and bolting the skid plate to it is because it would rattle and vibrate unless it has been snugged against it (just a guess).

As for the winch mounting, the passenger side - front bolt was the trickiest of the 4. The passenger side rear bolt was also tricky but much easier than the front bolt. The two on the driver's side were a cinch.








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Trimmed my crash bar as well...didn't cut it completely off though.

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Nice Jeep.

Trimmed my crash bar as well...didn't cut it completely off though.
Thanks! Ahh, that's right - I forgot you also have to trim it down (make it narrower on the sides) if you use it.. Did you bolt the skid onto it? If not, does it rattle/vibrate?


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Thanks! Ahh, that's right - I forgot you also have to trim it down (make it narrower on the sides) if you use it.. Did you bolt the skid onto it? If not, does it rattle/vibrate?
Just out of curiosity, how do you like the Superwinch Talon?

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Just out of curiosity, how do you like the Superwinch Talon?

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Well, in all fairness, I haven't tested it yet.. Will let you know when I do!!


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Please do. I'm really interested in that winch.

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