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Thinking of replacing Winch line!!

What is a great winch line to use on my Warn 9.5 TI? I want to go synthetic to save weight and they are just as strong, I know I'll need a new fairbead as well.

I've read good things about vikings just want to know what you guys have used


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i've had good luck with viking lines

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i've had good luck with viking lines
I main concern is winching over rock or something of that nature, because there are times when the winch line is is laying on/rubbing against something while winching. Its not always a complete straight shot to the anchor point. What I mean is that sometimes the winch lines doesnt have a clean/clear shot from the jeep to the anchor point. Hope this makes sense.


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You can break cable or rope rubbing it on rocks.

Go Viking, it'll come with a rash guard that can be slid out to protect the line during a pull like you're speaking of.

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You can break cable or rope rubbing it on rocks.

Go Viking, it'll come with a rash guard that can be slid out to protect the line during a pull like you're speaking of.

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Marcus, This? I know it comes with 8 foot of rash guard at the hook/thimble end. Now I don't know which end to get (look at the viking) Pros/cons to having one tube thimble vs safety thimble




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That 8' rock guard will slide down the line when you pull cable to your winch point. You put it over the rock and the line slides through it.

The thimble vs hook and loop is personal preference. The safety thimble won't suck through a fairlead where the hook has the potential to. You should never hold the hook when spooling line anyway so it's a toss up.

I like a hook myself, personal preference.

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I main concern is winching over rock or something of that nature, because there are times when the winch line is is laying on/rubbing against something while winching. Its not always a complete straight shot to the anchor point. What I mean is that sometimes the winch lines doesnt have a clean/clear shot from the jeep to the anchor point. Hope this makes sense.
Um... ok. pretty much all synth line is going to have the same resistance to rocks. Or were you asking about steel vs synth? Any more my butt puckers on really hard pulls on steel cable. I know it shouldn't. And i used steel cable for 10 years without any issues. But i've become wary in my old age lol.

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That 8' rock guard will slide down the line when you pull cable to your winch point. You put it over the rock and the line slides through it.

The thimble vs hook and loop is personal preference. The safety thimble won't suck through a fairlead where the hook has the potential to. You should never hold the hook when spooling line anyway so it's a toss up.

I like a hook myself, personal preference.

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i just roll straight up D ring gangsta it's usually sucked in till the d ring is against the fairlead though


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oh i also REALLY recommend getting a good cover for your winch. My line has REALLY faded from being out in the sun. It's not specific to viking. i've seen amsteel ones do it too.

i prefer neoprene but that's just me

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I am a fan of this rope (even though I haven't had a chance to use it yet). Its highley recomended by many. Can't say its in any way better than Viking but on the Master Pull site they describe how its made in it impressed me a lot.

Marcus got me an outstanding price on it: http://www.rivercityoffroad.com/

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......i just roll straight up D ring gangsta it's usually sucked in till the d ring is against the fairlead though
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oh i also REALLY recommend getting a good cover for your winch. My line has REALLY faded from being out in the sun. It's not specific to viking. i've seen amsteel ones do it too.

i prefer neoprene but that's just me
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The roller fairlead weighs a lot so not only does the hause look better but saves more lbs.

I ran with the rope hooked to a shackel point on the bumper till I noticed weathering from just being exposed to the elements. I too now reel the rope all the way in and have a cover.

Once you get the rope in your hands and use it you'll never go back.

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Call Todd at Custom Splice. He is a supporting vendor here and the Amsteel line he sells is top notch. I shaved 30 pounds when I switched to synthetic. Make sure you tell him you're on JKOwners and/or Pirate 4x4. http://www.customsplice.com/

edit: I just went to their website. I didn't see thimble's on there but I know they have them. They also have different color line, so you don't have to get blue. I think they have red and grey.


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The roller fairlead weighs a lot so not only does the hause look better but saves more lbs.

I ran with the rope hooked to a shackel point on the bumper till I noticed weathering from just being exposed to the elements. I too now reel the rope all the way in and have a cover.

Once you get the rope in your hands and use it you'll never go back.
I know the Amsteel line is UV resistant and from what I understand the fading only affects the color, not the strength of the rope.


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^^^^^ It is not just the UV. There was actual fraying from the road grime and wind. Plus I got the color because i want the color. All is well after I made the change of how I keep the rope and a cover.

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Masterpull is the best, but expensive.

Viking line is not only good, but the customer service is AWESOME. Every time I order from them, there is a package at my door in two days. Highly recommended.

Order 100ft of 3/8" line and wind it on tight. Fits great on the winch you have.
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How do you know what size and length of line to get for a particular winch?

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How do you know what size and length of line to get for a particular winch?
Most run 100'

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How do you know what size and length of line to get for a particular winch?
The vendor will likely know how much of what size will fit on your winch. [email protected] was very helpful when I bought my winch and Viking line


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MasterPull's XD is fantastic stuff! it has a protective covering to keep out the grime and protect from UV exposure. I have 100' of the regular 5/16" Superline and am more than impressed with it. Emil and the guys at MasterPull are an awesome group of dudes.

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I prefer the safety thimble.
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Marcus, This? I know it comes with 8 foot of rash guard at the hook/thimble end. Now I don't know which end to get (look at the viking) Pros/cons to having one tube thimble vs safety thimble


That's the removable rock guard that they have. It's a separate option (cheap too at only $20) that you can order by itself to add to whatever line you have. The regular rock guard that they put on their winch line is not removable, but you can still slide it up and down the line, it just doesn't come off. The one that comes with the line is very heavy duty and better quality than I've seen on other winchlines.

Master-Pull and Viking are both great lines regardless which route that anyone goes.
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I run a Viking with safety thimble.

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I run a 100' Viking 3/8" line and prefer the safety hook.

I ran the 100' Viking 3/8" with the safety hook on a Powerplant on my LJ for five years with no fading or fraying issues. The hook was hooked to a recovery point mounted D ring, no issues. I would be concerned that pulling a steel D ring into an aluminum hawse fairlead would nick it, which will then cause fraying.

5/16" is strong enough when new, but the larger diameter can take more fraying and deterioration over time while still retaining sufficient strength.

BTW, if you need one, the 100' extension is great. Doesn't take up much room, is soft and coils well, loops at both ends make attaching it easy.

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9.5ti / 9.5si


M-P 5/16" X 125'


M-P 3/8" X 100'

this is from master pulls website. I run the amsteel blue line on my 9.5 TI. ive been happy with it. got it from www.amsteelblue.com

Amsteel™ Blue 5/16" X 125' winch line w/ Crush proof thimble and H-D sling hook


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I used Viking on all my Toyotas on a Warn 9.5ti with great results. That's what I'll be running when I put a winch on the Jeep.

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