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Ok, so my Jeep has some kind of crap all over it that won't come off very easily. Tried to wash it yesterday, but even with ample doses of elbow grease it's still holding. That being said, some spots are coming off, but it's very, very stubborn (kinda like a woman). Anyway, what is the preferred method of getting stuff off the paint w/o ruining the finish? I'm not sure what it is, I'm assuming it's "debris" (for lack of a better word) that was washed on and dried after the hurricane (no, I haven't washed it since I got back from Iraq).

So, I'd contemplated trying to lightly wet sand it to see if that'll bring it off. Would steel wool work?

I'm not a detailer by any means. Who around here knows about this stuff?

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did you try some bug and tar remover? can you feel the "spot", or does it seem to be etched into the clear coat? if you can feel it, then it is a matter of findieng the right solvent to dissolve the mess without ruining the clear. i typically start with dawn detergent and then goe to the bug and tar next. i have never tired it, but supposedly clay bar works well to clean off the crap form your finish. http://www.meguiars.com/estore/produ...ectionID=11201
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I can definitely feel the spots. It's not one spot, but many, many little spots all over it. I'll try to remember to pick up some bug and tar remover or a clay bar.

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that clay bar should work ive heard of ppl using that to like sap off and stuff but if you it dont i would go and buy some really really fine water sanding paper like 3000 or 4000 and real lightly sand it but if you start with 3000 u have to use 4000 after then buff it back out. be careful not to burn thru the paint though cause then youll be payin to get it painted again!
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If clay bar or bug n tar remover does not work get a heavy duty compound, there should be NO reason you need to sand these spots off. If you are that unsure of doing it bring it to a detail shop and ask them. If you sand it then buff it you are going to be removing clear that you should not be removing for spots that are on the surface of the clear and not in it.


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Sounds like damage from acid rain. Get a clay bar, follow the instructions and you won't have any issues. Wet sanding is a last resort. About ten years ago I had a high end detailing business and I can safely say I never had to wet sand a car. Every single time I was able to clay the car then follow up with a cleaner and polish to get the paint looking like glass again.


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www.chemicalguys.com will have what u need. My brother was a car detailer for a few years and used this stuff called Red Hot but apparently chemical guys has a better product. I cant remember the name but im sure if u give them a ring they can tell u.

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www.chemicalguys.com will have what u need. My brother was a car detailer for a few years and used this stuff called Red Hot but apparently chemical guys has a better product. I cant remember the name but im sure if u give them a ring they can tell u.
The only Red Hot I'm familiar with is a AP Cleaner/Degreaser. And the stuff you might be thinking of from the Chemical Guys is the Paint Correction Polish system. I'd still suggest he start with a clay bar then move to a polish and wax. A clay bar actually doesn't even touch your paint. You use a spray on lubricant to help the bar glide across the paint, removing any contaminants. You can also clay your windshield to help water bead up and slide of the windshield, kind of like Rain-X but without the residue.


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I have concluded I have speckles of tar all over my WHITE Jeep. It sucks!


I've clay bared the hood, and it took quite a bit of effort....but eventually worked. I am going to pickup some bug/tar remover and try that first. If that doesn't work, I basically have an entire afternoon of heavy clay barring to do.

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Yeah, the dude at Auto Zone looked at it and said it looked like tar to him. Got some stuff to try, then I'll move on to the clay bar.


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Clay bar works great! I clay bar mine about every 6 months, polish, and wax it. Clay bar takes pretty much everything off, and makes the paint super smooth.

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Clay bar FTW! I have one and it works awesome! Got some fine mist overspray from touching up the bed liner on my plate steel stubby caps. That bar smoothed my paint right out with no issues. Even Meguiars cleaner/wax wouldn't remove that overspray. 3M rubbing compound would have and left swirls too. Clay bar just left a smooth, shiny surface.

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Yeah, the dude at Auto Zone looked at it and said it looked like tar to him. Got some stuff to try, then I'll move on to the clay bar.
If it is tar diesel fuel will get it right out.. put some diesel on a rag and dab at it.

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Thanks, Rich. I never thought of that.

See, that's one more reason why I NEED the 4BT.


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I get all my stuff from Chemical Guys... it's great stuff.
Prices arent too bad either

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The only Red Hot I'm familiar with is a AP Cleaner/Degreaser. And the stuff you might be thinking of from the Chemical Guys is the Paint Correction Polish system. I'd still suggest he start with a clay bar then move to a polish and wax. A clay bar actually doesn't even touch your paint. You use a spray on lubricant to help the bar glide across the paint, removing any contaminants. You can also clay your windshield to help water bead up and slide of the windshield, kind of like Rain-X but without the residue.
I never knew u could clay bar the windshield. Thats cool. Thanks

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