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post #1 of 130 Old 07-08-2011, 10:42 AM Thread Starter
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How many people here are seriously considering buying a 2012 JK?

Tired of the lack of power in my 2010 JKU and the poor gas mileage.

Bought it in Aug 2010 and am SERIOUSLY considering trading it in for the 2012 JKU with the Pentastar 283 or 290 hp (whatever it rates out at) and the 5 spd auto tranny.

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i don't think it will be a huge improvement. but time will tell. if it is a huge improvement then thats a good reason for me to sell my 2 door for a four door!

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We are seriously going to go look at them when they come out. I already talked to jd about shipping one to PA.

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Either they sell me a factory V-8 or I will maintain my 08 in perpetuity..........
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Sorry to hear about your lack of power--


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Tired of the lack of power in my 2010 JKU and the poor gas mileage.

Bought it in Aug 2010 and am SERIOUSLY considering trading it in for the 2012 JKU with the Pentastar 283 or 290 hp (whatever it rates out at) and the 5 spd auto tranny.
There's nothing wrong with the 3.8L v6--it just was given the wrong gears

My JKUR has plenty power/great responce/good mileage and makes towing a pleasure--

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I love all the speculation when nobody here has driven one

31 jeeps in... still have issues
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I love all the speculation when nobody here has driven one
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Speculation, not by me...... I have a V-8 in my 08. I have zero need for a V-6

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Heh Heh, me too, I have a v6 in my JKUR and I'm, happy with it's performance-so I'm not speculating on a NEW JKU !!


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Just sold the 2008 the other day and I am ordering a 2012. I voted yes since I am not speculating...
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Anyone who is truly happy with the 3.8 and says it has plenty of power has very low expectations. True, it's adequate (barely) offroad and around town but mine is my daily driver and I expect a vehicle to be able to hold top gear at the posted speed limit on level ground most of the time. I just returned from a 2500 mile road trip and I have since put mine up for sale. I'm going back to seperate daily driver and Jeep because 11 mpg average and being unable to hold the speed limit with as little as 10 mph headwind is unacceptable to me.
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Anyone who is truly happy with the 3.8 and says it has plenty of power has very low expectations. True, it's adequate (barely) offroad and around town but mine is my daily driver and I expect a vehicle to be able to hold top gear at the posted speed limit on level ground most of the time. I just returned from a 2500 mile road trip and I have since put mine up for sale. I'm going back to seperate daily driver and Jeep because 11 mpg average and being unable to hold the speed limit with as little as 10 mph headwind is unacceptable to me.
I can accelerate in in top gear on the highway so you have something going on. Running 35's or 37's with the stock gears?


Have none of you people daily driven a YJ or a TJ they are absolutely no more powerful. I would say tire size equal and both with stock gearing the 3.8 is a much better motor on the highway.
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Sorry you feel that way, you're just expecting the JK to conform to EXACTLY how you wantit, without any changes--


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Anyone who is truly happy with the 3.8 and says it has plenty of power has very low expectations. True, it's adequate (barely) offroad and around town but mine is my daily driver and I expect a vehicle to be able to hold top gear at the posted speed limit on level ground most of the time. I just returned from a 2500 mile road trip and I have since put mine up for sale. I'm going back to seperate daily driver and Jeep because 11 mpg average and being unable to hold the speed limit with as little as 10 mph headwind is unacceptable to me.
You're just selling a great vehicle short, because of what Chrysler delivered and you're not willing to changeit

Mine averages 18.2mpg at 60mph, 17.2mpg at 70 mph-

Being a Rubicon, off road was already tops, now-it'll go anywhere and tow my trailer right along withit-Oh avg 16.2 mpg towing my trailer at 60mph !!

Yea I've already done this for months--

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I put too much work into my POS to trade it in for a pretty dash and another POS Chrysler engine.

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Sorry you feel that way, you're just expecting the JK to conform to EXACTLY how you wantit, without any changes--




You're just selling a great vehicle short, because of what Chrysler delivered and you're not willing to changeit

Mine averages 18.2mpg at 60mph, 17.2mpg at 70 mph-

Being a Rubicon, off road was already tops, now-it'll go anywhere and tow my trailer right along withit-Oh avg 16.2 mpg towing my trailer at 60mph !!

Yea I've already done this for months--

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It is a great vehicle... if you don't consider how ridiculously underpowered it is. Over the years it has ballooned in weight but the hp has remained virtually the same. With 2 adults and a full tank of gas, the JKU weighs over 4600 lbs.
That is a lot of weight for just a 205 hp engine. Thats 22.4 lbs per 1 hp.

I drive 20 miles to work, and 20 miles back, every day on the highway and there are a few hills... not Mt Everest hills but long hills and on a couple of them my auto tranny has downshifted into second gear by the time I'm at the top and other trucks and compact cars are passing me like I'm standing still. I definitely make sure I'm in the slow lane when going up those hills.

As for gas milage... I average 14 liters per 100 kms (16.8 miles per us gallon) and thats mostly hwy driving. Frankly, in this day and age and with the price of gas, that SUCKS!

I would love to have a V8 under the hood but I can't afford a modification that is that expensive. I would also love to have a supercharger too... but again ... its that cost thing again. So I'm going with the next best thing... the new 2012 with the 290 hp pentastar. Thats a 41% increase in horsepower... or 15.8 lbs per 1 hp. I'll be happy with that.

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It is a great vehicle... if you don't consider how ridiculously underpowered it is. Over the years it has ballooned in weight but the hp has remained virtually the same. With 2 adults and a full tank of gas, the JKU weighs over 4600 lbs.
That is a lot of weight for just a 205 hp engine. Thats 22.4 lbs per 1 hp.

I drive 20 miles to work, and 20 miles back, every day on the highway and there are a few hills... not Mt Everest hills but long hills and on a couple of them my auto tranny has downshifted into second gear by the time I'm at the top and other trucks and compact cars are passing me like I'm standing still. I definitely make sure I'm in the slow lane when going up those hills.

As for gas milage... I average 14 liters per 100 kms (16.8 miles per us gallon) and thats mostly hwy driving. Frankly, in this day and age and with the price of gas, that SUCKS!

I would love to have a V8 under the hood but I can't afford a modification that is that expensive. I would also love to have a supercharger too... but again ... its that cost thing again. So I'm going with the next best thing... the new 2012 with the 290 hp pentastar. Thats a 41% increase in horsepower... or 15.8 lbs per 1 hp. I'll be happy with that.
My modifications to get my (paid for) JKUR, cost was very close to $2000 bucks and There's nothing more I NEED, course I'll still add mods to her anyway, but I won't need a new jeep forit-

Good luck, I hope the new "jesus" engine does everything you want!!

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Speculation, not by me...... I have a V-8 in my 08. I have zero need for a V-6
And for what that v8 cost you I have a Tj that'll outwheel most full bodied rigs around here.

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Heh Heh, only if you happen to have a JKU Rubicon !!


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And for what that v8 cost you I have a Tj that'll outwheel most full bodied rigs around here.



Is the R really necessary?
Does it bother you that I'm steeling SO MUCH BANDWIDTH ???

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I can accelerate in in top gear on the highway so you have something going on. Running 35's or 37's with the stock gears?


Have none of you people daily driven a YJ or a TJ they are absolutely no more powerful. I would say tire size equal and both with stock gearing the 3.8 is a much better motor on the highway.
I can accelerate all the way up to 85 mph as well, then it shifts into OD and starts falling off until I get to around 65 and it starts all over again. I live in Denver (actually Castle Rock @ 6400ft)so I have less power due to elevation to start off with. I'm geared 5.38 with 35's and an auto. I do know the POS tranny is partly to blame but my 98 XJ with 4.88 gears and 35s held freeway speed better than my JKU.

I actually love most everything about my JK minus the engine and tranny but unfortunately as a daily driver I spend too much time frustrated how much time it spends in and out of 3rd gear.
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thats my big complaint - on the highway with the cruise set at 70 it hits 4th gear and any minor hill or a strong headwind, it creeps back down to 65, then downshifts and gets back to 70 - repeat for length of trip.
it'll run 85-90 no problem, I do it one emergency calls all the time, just wont hold 70 mph in 4th gear in windy west texas to save its life.
avg about 12MPG with mostly highway driving

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fwiw, it actually seems to have gotten a little better with the 37s than the 35's

well that and the paper thin sheetmetal....

dunno if the extra 58HP - last I heard, the pentastar was detuned from 290 to 260 will help THAT much, but I'm betting the 5sp auto will be a blessing

that said, I dunno if things fell into place just right, I might look at a 12, IF all my shit will swap over
but it'd be a tough sell with my lifetime powertrain warranty.


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I can accelerate all the way up to 85 mph as well, then it shifts into OD and starts falling off until I get to around 65 and it starts all over again. I live in Denver (actually Castle Rock @ 6400ft)so I have less power due to elevation to start off with. I'm geared 5.38 with 35's and an auto. I do know the POS tranny is partly to blame but my 98 XJ with 4.88 gears and 35s held freeway speed better than my JKU.

I actually love most everything about my JK minus the engine and tranny but unfortunately as a daily driver I spend too much time frustrated how much time it spends in and out of 3rd gear.
That makes sense. I've got a 2-door 6-speed I guess thats makes a big difference. I am on 35's and 3.73s still and can put it in 6th gear and accelerate from 60-80 no problem. The only time it has to come out of 6th is on steep hills or bridges. That could easily be cured with some gears though. I always forget about the 4-doors.
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