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XRC-8 or M8000?

Money isn't a big issue, but overall value is.

XRC-8 with Synth for 449.99

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M8000 for 539.99-80.00 rebate = 459.99 + buy Synth rope?

I'd like to 'go WARN' but want Synth.

Which would you go with, and if the WARN, what rope should I get?

Any deals out there to just buy the M8000 and Synth?

Also, any other GREAT deals on winches right now? Wish I bought that EPI9.0S deal on Amazon 6 months ago
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I have used Warn winches for years on work trucks in the summer at the ski resort and they are bomber. Everything from unsticking trucks to pulling down trees to moving boulders, and never once had a problem, we used the normal 9000s not any of the industrial ones. Also in referance to the synthetic line, one of my wheelin buddies uses synth line on his Powerplant and has never had an issue, his rig weighs in at almost 7000lbs! I have full trust in both.
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Personally, I have no problems using wire rope. I have also seen some radical rollovers when synth winch line has snapped, after being cut on rocks.

Although I would love the weight reduction, I find the benifits are outweighed by cost & hazzards.

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Good point. This is still my DD so I don't see too many rollovers in the near term or giant jagged rocks....but that could change in the next year.

I do care about the weight though. If I can get synth with some rope protection for rocks, I'd be good.
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Get the warn with the wire,you can never be over prepared.had the same winch on my TJ and it never ever let me down.

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You save about 30lbs w sythetic. I went with the Smitty XRC8 comp winch. One of my off-road magazine's did a winch test and the Smitty was one of them. It was not as fast as the Warn but did perform well and got the job done. It's one of those things that will not see much use on my JK but I like knowing it's there. I got mine from Amazon for $399 and free shipping.




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Get the Warn. Put synthetic line on it and buy a haus fairlead when you get the funds.

You only need to mount the Warn once. And once you go synthetic, you will never go back to cable again. Cable is dangerous, synthetic is safe and easy to handle.
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I have been going through the same debate. I want to send a letter to Warn to see if they will sell the M8000 without cable and what the reduction in cost will be. I have heard of & seen several steel cable failures or injuries from frayed cables. As far as Synthetic rubbing on sharp edges, that is what blankets, pulleys & snatch blocks are for.

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I have been going through the same debate. I want to send a letter to Warn to see if they will sell the M8000 without cable and what the reduction in cost will be. I have heard of & seen several steel cable failures or injuries from frayed cables. As far as Synthetic rubbing on sharp edges, that is what blankets, pulleys & snatch blocks are for.
I'd like to know what you hear from Warn. It would be ideal to buy it w/o the cable or with the Synthetic already on it. It's odd I don't see it selling anywhere like that. I would just toss the cable anyway.

I think not having that option publicly for sale is throwing a lot of business Smittybilt's way. The Smitty's are getting good reviews and are at a price to capture a lot of first-time winch buyers money. If they have a good experience, they won't be likely to go Warn later.......they are missing the boat here.
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Ok - Well I didn't want to wait so I called Warn today

They do not sell winches w/o the cable as they come from the US factory with them on the drum. One of the reasons they don't sell them now with the Synthetic is what it would do to the cost when including a 'quality' syn. It could take a $500 M8000 and make it close to $900......big jump.

I've seen the different costs of aftermarket syn rope on Amazon ($100 to $600), and there has to be a difference in quality. Not all synthetic rope is made the same. Personally, I hear the same type of debates all the time working in the computer networking business.

He also had some good points about potential issues with synthetic rope. Besides the snagging I've always heard about, he mentioned about how dirt and sand can get inbetween the rope fibers causing it to slowly deteriorate. UV is also a concern. Washing out the rope after mudding would be a pain....

The weight on the M8000 also doesn't seem to be big concern. 74lbs with the cable. Pretty decent. He never had issues with cables and says most of the exec's at Warn still run them. They use syn on ATV's and vehicles they would use bare hands on, but run steel on the Jeeps/Trucks. Throw a rug across the wire if there is a concern about stored energy....and you're all set.

I think I'll jump on the M8000 with the $80 rebate and if I want to go Syn later I'll pick up some MasterPull line.

**The US based factories are a HUGE plus for Warn too. I'll spend a little extra to get the Warn and keep my money in the US. That was also my justification on why I spent almost $30K on the Jeep too....
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The VR8000 Could be an option too.

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