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I am ready to pull the trigger on a 2011 Jeep JK. I have been doing some research and have made some tentative choices that I would like input on.

My Jeep will be a daily driver but I am not concerned with mpg. I'll be getting an automatic transmission. I will be doing some camping, fishing and shooting. Also some mild to moderate trail riding with the local Jeep club. For the most part I am function over form, but I do want my Jeep to look good.

I have picked out the Rock Krawler 2.5 Max Travel lift with Rock Krawler shocks. 35x12.50x17 tires. Probably Nitto Trail Grapplers. And 17" wheels obviously. Does anyone have any reasons the Rock Krawler lift wouldn't be the best choice?

I have looked over several bumpers, tire carriers, and rock sliders, but don't notice an advantage one way or the other really other than looks. I'll also be installing a winch just in case.

My main question is Wrangler Sport vs Rubicon. Will the extra reduction in the transfer case, 44 axles, 4.10 gears, and lockers make that much difference for my purposes. I can get quick disconnects for the sway bar. Being able to do that from in the cab doesn't mean that much to me. Cost isn't a huge deal, but I don't need what I don't need.

With the 35" tires I may end up changing gears anyway with either the Rubicon or Sport to something closer to 5:1.

Is there anything I am missing for now?

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If you don't plan on doing any rock crawling, you can get by with a Sport, but the second you do get into some rocks you are going to wish you had bought the Rubicon.

The rest of your plan looks pretty sound. RK is a great lift with good service after the fact.

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be prepared for a huge debate over what gears to use for 35s... imo, if its in your budget, get the rubi, you never know when the extras will come in handy... good luck!

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post #4 of 24 Old 05-24-2011, 02:43 PM
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I'd go with the Rubicon...
With 35's on a Sport, you will need to beef up the front D30 and spend on gussets/shafts/sleeves etc. and also you might end up getting the D44 aftermarket spending more later. Instead you can just get the D44 with Rubicon and not have to worry about any of that..
Also lockers are a useful addition. A lot of folks get rid of their e-disconnects and get quick disconnects and so e-disconnects are not really a selling point on a Rubicon for me, but the front D44 and lockers are...
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One thing to remember with a JK. 35's usually lead to 37's.

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You can't go wrong with the RK lift kit. As for the Rubi or sport debate if you can swing it I would do the Rubi. Between the 4.1 T-case and the front D44 axle I think it would be the ideal set up for what you are looking to do.


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I don't see any Rock crawling in your "itinerary" so I'd say save your money and get the Sport.
Only advantages with a rubicon, you get a Rubicon sticker and have selectable lockers.
The front D44 has the same outer C's and axle tubing as the D30 so you'll have to reinforce one way or another if you think it's needed.
If you regear then you can throw in a TruTrac limited slip at the same time and you still will have money left over for other toys
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I don't see any Rock crawling in your "itinerary" so I'd say save your money and get the Sport.
Only advantages with a rubicon, you get a Rubicon sticker and have selectable lockers.
The front D44 has the same outer C's and axle tubing as the D30 so you'll have to reinforce one way or another if you think it's needed.
If you regear then you can throw in a TruTrac limited slip at the same time and you still will have money left over for other toys
Went with the Sport because I wanted to change some things and did not see the additional cost of a RUBI being my best choice.

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post #9 of 24 Old 05-25-2011, 05:06 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks all for the input. After doing some more research about what it would take to bring my Jeep up to a Rubicon later if I did not buy one now, it seems a lot more cost effective just to do it now. Then if I do get into the off road thing a little more than I expect, I'll be more ready with the Rubi.
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I bought the rubi so I could have locked d44's front and back and the 4:1 transfer case right away and pay for them over 5 years.

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You made a great move with the Rock Krawler 2.5" Max Travel. It is easily upgradeable if you want more height and will clear 35s with stock fenders nicely.

The front axle, transfer case, and 4.10s from the factory are nice to have, especially with 35s in your future. Go Rubicon IMO. Having driven a few JKs with 4.10s and 35s, they are much more bearable than 35s and 3.73s that you'd have in the Sport.

I like the Nitto Trail Grappler MTs, but do beware that they are a load range E, 10 ply tire in a 35/12.50R17. This could translate into a little rougher ride but you probably won't notice. I run the 37s on my JK and am very, very pleased with their performance so far.

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Go with the Rubi, 44s and lockers, 4 to 1 low range, think about the 6 speed you get 4 10 gears, will help out with 35s most of the hard stuffs done for you.


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Wait and get a 2012.. save your money while the suspension companies come out with their new stuff for it.. thats what I would do this late in the year.

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Wait and get a 2012.. save your money while the suspension companies come out with their new stuff for it.. thats what I would do this late in the year.
That's a damn good point. Didn't think of that.


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Wait and get a 2012.. save your money while the suspension companies come out with their new stuff for it.. thats what I would do this late in the year.
I agree.

You might as well wait for 2012 and at least see what is next.

Worst case senario if you don't like it you can probably find a 2011 cheap

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The most information I could find about the 2012 wrangler was a .1 inch longer wheelbase on the 2 door (what I am looking at), a 5 speed auto instead of 4, the 3.6L 290hp motor, and an optional full time 4wd transfer case for the masses. The motor would also be further back in the vehicle and the tranny would be 3 inches longer. The configuration would mean a more aerodynamic windshield.

While all of these things are nice, none of them are necessarily reasons I would wait for a 2012. Looks like most info is pointing towards first 2012 wranglers hitting dealers mid August, and en masse mid September. Not sure I want to wait that long to get into a new vehicle. But certainly something to think about. Maybe I'll wait until info gets more concrete.

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Stoney, another positive thing with the 2012's is the gas mileage is suppose to be increased as well, if ya care about that. Obviously cannot confirm that is true but have it from a pretty reliable source.
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The most information I could find about the 2012 wrangler was a .1 inch longer wheelbase on the 2 door (what I am looking at), a 5 speed auto instead of 4, the 3.6L 290hp motor, and an optional full time 4wd transfer case for the masses. The motor would also be further back in the vehicle and the tranny would be 3 inches longer. The configuration would mean a more aerodynamic windshield.

While all of these things are nice, none of them are necessarily reasons I would wait for a 2012. Looks like most info is pointing towards first 2012 wranglers hitting dealers mid August, and en masse mid September. Not sure I want to wait that long to get into a new vehicle. But certainly something to think about. Maybe I'll wait until info gets more concrete.

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Almost a whole new platform... would be enough to make me wait. Hell, when we bought Jenna's 2010 and then a month later they made the announcement for the new interior in the 2011 and the Pentastar in the 2012 we were kinda bummed we didn't wait longer.

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"moderate trail riding" can get into more intensive quickly. Go with the Rubicon.

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IMO, if you're set on the auto transmission, the 2012 is definitely worth waiting for. If you're going to 35's, then you'll be glad you have the 5spd and not the "3" speed that's in the current JK.


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IMO, if you're set on the auto transmission, the 2012 is definitely worth waiting for. If you're going to 35's, then you'll be glad you have the 5spd and not the "3" speed that's in the current JK.
I agree. If I was ever going to buy an auto Jeep I'd be waiting for the 2012s.

Obviously under the stipulation I wasn't building a full-on rig and swapping everything.

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Knowing what I know now I would have got a Rubi. I ordered the most basic plain Jane Sport I could get knowing I would build it. The front 44 and 4.1 T-case are things at this point I really wish I had. In the long run I will make this into a serious machine but i'm waiting till my move to AZ to do this. In the mean time I could use the beefier axle, factory lockers and most important to me the 4.1 case. I got my Sport for just over 21000 so i'm not going to complain. That said i would have gotten a Rubi anyways. If my current JK is to beat to go ahead with my plans in a few years when I move I will go the AEV route and get a J8, its kinda my dream at this point. Than again, who knows what will be out for the 2014-2015 model years?? Something tells me that a custom order JK will be a much better option than the even more watered down "mall" JK of the future..
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alright lol. you guys talked me into it. I called my dealer and told him to let me know the minute he can take orders for a 2012. It will be a Sahara Tan Rubi with auto.

Thanks again for all the input and comments. I hadn't even really considered the 2012 and I think it will be a better choice. You guys saved me some regret.
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alright lol. you guys talked me into it. I called my dealer and told him to let me know the minute he can take orders for a 2012. It will be a Sahara Tan Rubi with auto.

Thanks again for all the input and comments. I hadn't even really considered the 2012 and I think it will be a better choice. You guys saved me some regret.
I think you'll like it.

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