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My new trailer

well new to me anyway Its a M101A2 that I picked up for $500 and the only thing it needed was a new surge brake damper. Fixed that and got some surplus MTRs ($100) and some used steel 16.5" rims ($50)

So I figure with the cost savings over a "off-road" trailer I can live with its extra size. Besides I would rather have too much trailer instead of not enough. And I think it looks "correct" behind a 4dr




Wheel wells fill nicely with 37's and it tows very well



I ditched the factory swing out support and replaced it with a wheeled jack, hit it all with some sorta matching paint and some skulls


re-wired it all with LED side markers and tails and some reverse lights.


I will toss a line lock wired into the reverse to lock out the surge brakes eventually. I may even go with a lighter axle but right now I see no point. its solid the way it is.

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You bastage... I already wanted one of these things... for what? Just because they are so damn cool behind a Jeep really.

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That is a pretty sick looking combo...
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That is a pretty sick looking combo...
picked up the trailer from a dude in Maryland, he has like 8 more you know you want one

When I get bored I may go and have some plates laser cut to be able to use JK unit bearings as "hubs" and make a trailing arm IFS for it. Then I can run matching tire/wheel all around.
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Very Nice. Sounds like you got a smoking deal. Are you going to make a camper out of it?

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oh ya, search info
M101A1 = this size, old ass BUDD style lugs and wheels
M101A2 = this trailer, normal 8 lug axle
M101A3 = this size but with axle wider to run stock HMMWV rims/tires

Most common problem is the surge damper going, its the little shock in the surge break. don't bother to by an exact replacement but pull it and go to a real trailer shop and get the same size throw one for a modern trailer (I think mine was for a Demco 10 or 20) and drill out the back hole to the same size as that damper. its like 1/3 the price of an exact replacement and can be found at ANY trailer shop.

If you need it lighter weight you can ditch the 8 lug hardfuckingcore killer axles and go with a smaller one. The surge brake is bolt on so its easy to replace with whatever hitch you want. I don't mind surge brakes.

Its fully shocked and rides well, I had 2k of wood in it this weekend and was no where near the bumpstops. Remember that the rating for military trailers is usualy "over land" not over "road" so on highway they can handle a lot more
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Very Nice. Sounds like you got a smoking deal. Are you going to make a camper out of it?
nope, not out of it.
A drop in for it

I figure I could make a nice teardropish drop in for it with a combo of by hand an an old bed topper.
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Nice... been looking for one of those, but up here in Canada everybody thinks they are worth $1500 - $2000.

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nope, not out of it.
A drop in for it

I figure I could make a nice teardropish drop in for it with a combo of by hand an an old bed topper.
That sounds very familiar.....
https://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32257

https://www.jkowners.com/forum/showpo...0&postcount=31

Let me know if you want some design help Doc. I've considered these every time I come across one, but I think my next variation will be aluminum.


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Nice... been looking for one of those, but up here in Canada everybody thinks they are worth $1500 - $2000.
Thats funny seeing as everyone down here thinks the canadian m101 's are worth 2-3 grand
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Ive been scoping M100s and M416s but cant fathom $1000+ for shitty condition. Thought the M101A1s would be too big, but that's sweet! Looks good behind the rig and wont break the bank. Plus is large enough to actually be usefull hauling yard waste.

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Damn. I was thinking those would be huge behind a jeep, but it actually looks real nice. Any idea on the current weight? It was my understanding they were heavy.

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Damn. I was thinking those would be huge behind a jeep, but it actually looks real nice. Any idea on the current weight? It was my understanding they were heavy.
Like 1,300 I think from the data plate. But it is pretty unkillable. you could gut 500 easily by ditching the entire surge brake system and going with a 3k axle with electric brakes. The axle tube on this bitych is like 4" in diameter and HUGE hubs/brakes. Thats not even figuring the surge system and pintle.
seeing as you can get 5 on 5 electric brakes you could re-use your old wheels/tires.
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That thing is friggin' awesome...

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looks great!!


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So I figure with the cost savings over a "off-road" trailer I can live with its extra size. Besides I would rather have too much trailer instead of not enough. And I think it looks "correct" behind a 4dr
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oh ya, search info
M101A1 = this size, old ass BUDD style lugs and wheels
M101A2 = this trailer, normal 8 lug axle
M101A3 = this size but with axle wider to run stock HMMWV rims/tires

I don't mind surge brakes.

Its fully shocked and rides well, I had 2k of wood in it this weekend and was no where near the bumpstops. Remember that the rating for military trailers is usualy "over land" not over "road" so on highway they can handle a lot more
Nice trailer, looks great behind your JKU!

I have an M101A1 - no surge breaks, BUDD split rim wheels, odd five bolt pattern of the old Power Wagons, 34"x9"x16" military lug tires.

I also have an M101A2 according to the plate, but the Army retro fitted the wider drop axle of the M101A3. This one has the 37"x12.5"x16.5" MTR's on the eight lug/eight bolt Humvee bead locks. I don't use the inserts for the bead locks, no need.

Both of my trailers have the full canvas top framing and good ruberized canvas covers.

I love my trailers and think they're just about the right size for utility/camping gear hauling behind a JK. A little big and heavy for the Rubicon Trial, but hey, how often do you need to drag a trailer over that kind of ground?

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I love my trailers and think they're just about the right size for utility/camping gear hauling behind a JK. A little big and heavy for the Rubicon Trial, but hey, how often do you need to drag a trailer over that kind of ground?

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thats the thing

I see all these guys dragging their trailers up some retarded trails and I don't get it. My trailer is staying at "base camp" and the hardest trails it will be going up are usually not that hard. It is definitely durable enough to be drug against trees/rocks/whatever and is no wider than my JK, so if I fit so will it

It would have no problem being an expedition trailer or go anywhere I want to take it that my JK could do without getting mangled
And at the cost, would I really be hurt if it gets a little banged up?
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Oh ya, for note:
Those in Virginia (and maybe some other states) If you buy one from a government auction you will need to WAIT for an ECU (end user certificate) and unless you have done DRMO shit before this may be a few month wait. If you buy from a private party and they either have an ECU or a title already then you are good to go.
If you have no ECU or title in VA you register it as a "homemade trailer".
Go to the DMV and get a new VIN plate, attach VIN plate to frame in an obvious location (mine is over the old VIN) then you call the STATE POLICE !!! to come over and sign the paperwork saying the VIN is attached.
NOte, STATE POLICE !!....local PD are worthless and say some shit like "well we would be held responsible if the VIN was removed and put on something else" DMV is worthless as they will NOT walk out in the parking lot and verify it is on there
Call the state police, tell them local and DMV will not do it and you just need an officer to verify the VIn is attached and YES they do it and YES they have done it before, thanks.

Then register the trailer. Virgina states that a trailer under GVW of 3k requires no brakes or inspection.
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That looks awesome. As mentioned above, I always thought they would be a bit much for the JK, but it really does look badass behind the JKU.

I think I may have a new project if I can find one for the right prices..



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Nice trailer. Good to see a different approach to what to drag behind an Unlimited. I have looked at these as well. It looks correct.

Have my eye on a M116A2 right now. Think I can get it for $300.
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Hey Doc-
Trailer and JK look great!!! $500 was a good deal, too.


I have ONE left here in Socal- Near perfect M101a2 $800. These havent quite caught on with the JK crowd, but I agree--- I think they fit the 4 dr well. 1390lbs, but can be lightened quite a bit.
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Hundy, you know that one is not going to last long now because of this thread
The ones is SoCal/AZ are usualy nice and rust free, luckily the dude who owned this one stored it with the leg down so it drained right. Most people/places will store them with the pintle on the ground and the front of the trailer rusts from standing water.

Now what I need from you is another set of BAJA T/As
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Hundy, you know that one is not going to last long now because of this thread
The ones is SoCal/AZ are usualy nice and rust free, luckily the dude who owned this one stored it with the leg down so it drained right. Most people/places will store them with the pintle on the ground and the front of the trailer rusts from standing water.

Now what I need from you is another set of BAJA T/As
Man- the T/As have been few and far between around here!


Oh yeah- I forgot--- I just got a M101a3 in too!

BTW-- FYI- the H1 wheels with 36" or 37" tires will bolt right on a M101a2! (I tried it)



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That's a great looking trailer I really want something similar to be able to haul my supplies/spare/other parts when going on long trips. I've seen some set ups with pop up tents installed as well. Just gotta get the cash, I'm spending it as fast as I get it.

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