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Yup, More newbness: Suspension upgrades this time

Currently I have a 2.5" BB on my 2007 2-door. Around Xmas or so, I'll have some $$ saved for a real lift. I'm doing my research now, because I'm bizarre like that. However, there are crap-tonnes of not only different lifts, but different *types* of lifts! Can someone explain the various lifts and the pro's/con's of each?

I.E.: Coilover, mid-arm, long-arm, just springs/shocks, etc, etc, etc?

/Yes, I've search, read the FAQ, etc. Thanks for any clarifications anyone can add!

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To get a better response you will need to ask the question you want answered. If you have read the FAQ's and the vendor websites what do you still need clarification on?

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Whats the difference between a coilover and a midarm? Longarm? "Normal"? What are the pro's/cons of each? I'm not looking for vendor specific, just general info. Besides, the vendor site aren't very helpful. They all say "The best for the $$ you can get! Mad Flex! Super-size tires! You'll become a god among men!".

Just the basic pros/cons of the various types of lifts, really. If I need to break it down more:

What is a coilover supsension lift? What are its pro's/con's?

What is a normal (non-coilover/midarm/longarm) suspension lift? What are its pro's/con's?

What is a midarm supsension lift? What are its pro's/con's?

What is a longarm supsension lift? What are its pro's/con's?

What is a "anything I might have missed" supsension lift? What are its pro's/con's?

Does that help clarify?
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...There are crap-tonnes of not only different lifts, but different *types* of lifts! Can someone explain the various lifts and the pro's/con's of each?

I.E.: Coilover, mid-arm, long-arm, just springs/shocks, etc, etc, etc?
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Well, from a descriptive standpoint, you can figure out the order of the lifts and the intensity of the lifts from the price.

Coilover: Best of the best, usually paired with a long-arm for maximum results. Coilovers allow for triple rate springs, which gives the driver ridiculous amounts of down-travel and as much up-travel as they want. Terrific ride on road and off.

Long-Arm: Can be used with regular shocks and springs or coilovers. Long arms optimize driveline angles and articulation by extending the control arm mounting points to minimize caster. Can combine with coilover setups from different manufacturers. Expensive, great articulation, low center of gravity if you want it, available in aluminum for weight savings, terrific ride on road and off.

Mid-Arm/Short-Arm: This type of suspension will come with 2, 4, or 8 arms depending on what you think you need. The arms will try to do what the long arms do in regard to driveline angles and will also be much beefier than the stock for rock resistance. From affordable to expensive, better articulation, available in Al, improves/fixes flighty steering, death wobble, etc.

Springs and Shocks: Basic simple way to lift your Jeep. Driveline angles are compromised, flighty steering and death wobble can occur. Kits can include track bars, end links, brake line brackets, bump stop extensions, or any combination thereof. The higher end kits should include all these things. You can find nice simple kits from every manufacturer, but not all are created equal.

BB: I want to lift my Jeep and I'll do whatever I have to do to lift it. It lifts your Jeep but keeps your stock coils and may include shock adapters for your current shocks. If you have a Rubicon, you can get by with shock adapters. If you have a Sahara, Sport, or X, you should look into new shocks.

Leveling Kit: Evens out the rake.

Feel free to add what I've forgotten or have stated incorrectly...

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There is another type of suspension lift and that is using radius arms instead of lower and upper control arms. I do not know the pro's and con's of that setup over the control arms setup.

I am getting the budget and pricing for my lift together now and the advice that I would give someone is this.

Make sure you know what you are trying to do with the lift. Are you trying to just add larger tires, increase off road ability?
Make sure you compare all the components within a lift kit between vendors. This was the largest challenge for me. Many of the vendors have different stages of lift that contain different components.

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Awesome, thats exactly what I was looking for! It looks like (if everything goes my way, and her boobs aren't *too* much) I'll be getting a mid-arm lift around xmas! W00t!

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