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Advice on plugging axle tube

Destroyed a front axle shaft this weekend, and I really need to drive the Jeep until I can find a replacement. Should I:

-Just drive around with the axle shaft plugged with a rag?

-Remove the ears from both inner and outer shafts and re-install the inner to prevent diff oil from coming out?

-Pull the other front shaft and driveshaft and plug both ends of the axle tube?

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I'd honestly probably roll around with a rag. May wrap it in something to keep it from soaking through with oil. May be able to find something in the PVC section to tap in there...I don't think I'd lose too much sleep over it, as long as it's temporary. I think EVO's transfer case knob doubles as a temp. axle plug..

Pulling the other shaft and the driveshaft won't do you any good. Just more work, and another hole to fill.
Reinstalling just the inners with no stub would allow them to potentially walk around. Another more trouble than it's worth, to me.

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That was my thought too, I was going to make a decent plug out of something cheap to put in there. I have the EVO sleeves, so with the extra seal at the end I should be able to get something to squeeze in there tight.

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I'd honestly probably roll around with a rag. May wrap it in something to keep it from soaking through with oil. May be able to find something in the PVC section to tap in there...I don't think I'd lose too much sleep over it, as long as it's temporary. I think EVO's transfer case knob doubles as a temp. axle plug..

Pulling the other shaft and the driveshaft won't do you any good. Just more work, and another hole to fill.
Reinstalling just the inners with no stub would allow them to potentially walk around. Another more trouble than it's worth, to me.
X2 just get some duck tape
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this will work if you want to spend some coin...

http://www.evomfg.com/store/proddeta...od=EVO-SBSPLUG


If not, ive seen folks use styrofoam cups....PVC inserts....etc
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I actually have a micro fiber rag shoved in mine right now. Been a week and nothing has even leaked out.

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we used a beer can topper its a plastic cover for a beer can with lid so ur beer dont spill put narrown end in then duct taped it in place it got us off the trail and all the way home with out a problem you can get them at auto zone pepboys etc
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make sure you install the outer stub back into the unit bearing
and tighten the nut! thats what holds the unit bearing together. if you don't you will have more than a broken axle shaft for sure!
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Your local plumbing supply store should sell plugs that will work.

31 jeeps in... still have issues
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There's cheaper versions but something like this

http://webstore.petersenresources.co...pipe_plug.aspx

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Be sure to clean out your tube after or it will be a dirt magnet!
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X2 on the outer stub. You must use it because it holds the unit bearing together. A rag will work just fine for fluid retention.

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X2 on the outer stub. You must use it because it holds the unit bearing together. A rag will work just fine for fluid retention.
I heard this was true only with the older unit bearings (TJ) style, and with the JKs the outer stub wasn't required to hold the assembly together.
Can someone verify this?

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Just an FYI from the Iron Rock Offroad site

Does the JK front axle use dana 30 outers?
These axles use 32 spline captive unit bearings. Stock WJ is 27 spline non-captive. Captive means you can drive home even without an axle shaft in place (of course you'll need to plug the differential side so the oil doesn't leak out).

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make sure you install the outer stub back into the unit bearing
and tighten the nut! thats what holds the unit bearing together. if you don't you will have more than a broken axle shaft for sure!
Not needed with the JK.
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I installed the outer anyways, and just used a rag to plug the axle tube. I don't need any bling to put in there.

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I installed the outer anyways, and just used a rag to plug the axle tube. I don't need any bling to put in there.
Not much rain in az...

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Just an FYI from the Iron Rock Offroad site

Does the JK front axle use dana 30 outers?
These axles use 32 spline captive unit bearings. Stock WJ is 27 spline non-captive. Captive means you can drive home even without an axle shaft in place (of course you'll need to plug the differential side so the oil doesn't leak out).

I guess we all learn something new everyday but personally with the possibility of the wheel coming off if it were to separate I would not chance it for as little work as it is to install the outer stub. I am curious though to hear some real world experience from someone who has driven without the outer stub installed
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The 2WD JKs sold by Jeep have the same unit bearing with no stub shaft. Thats the good part about the new unit bearings, the bad part is that they are not rebuildable.
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make sure you install the outer stub back into the unit bearing
and tighten the nut! thats what holds the unit bearing together. if you don't you will have more than a broken axle shaft for sure!
Friend of mine was told the same thing about his IFS truck. That his 4x4 Chevy had to have the stub in it or the bearing would grenade. At that point he had driven about 80,000miles like that (no stub) with no problems....always makes me question the same theory on Jeeps..While not a specific Jeep application, I have witnessed that one.


Well actually it seems like Desert Dog just answered that one...

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