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me and my buddys are looking to go on a trip up a creek where the water comes about 3" above the bottom of the doors and wondering how good of a seal our doors have if it lets water in or not. Another question is my tranny ive read storys on here about how ppls auto trannys get water in them and then your screwed, help me out guys im new to wheeling and learning as i go !!

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I would say if you're new to wheeling then a trip up a deep creek isn't the best idea. Either from a vehicle maintanence/ recovery or an enviornmental impact view. Not to preach but please check out www.treadlightly.org

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Sorry, can't help you with the door seal question. I have been in water just below the door, never over the lower door seal.

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Sorry, can't help you with the door seal question. I have been in water just below the door, never over the lower door seal.
i've had water up to around my mirrors and the door seals seem to hold up good while driving. i would venture to say that if i would have stopped for a min, i would have gotten a leak somewhere. but do be careful with the transmission. auto or manual, i've heard bad things. any more information can be answered by tkob, our local submarine jeep expert. anything about water, mud, seals, breathers etc... he's the guy to ask.

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I would say if you're new to wheeling then a trip up a deep creek isn't the best idea. Either from a vehicle maintanence/ recovery or an enviornmental impact view. Not to preach but please check out www.treadlightly.org
ive been up the creek before about 2 weeks ago and its easy to get up it with no problem, its just that its at the bottom of a ski slope and with it getting warmer out the snows slowly melting and the creek is getting a little higher and just wondering on the door seal and trans
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Not sure about your area but over here it is really bad juju to be driving up the creeks and rivers just for the fun. Some water crossings can't be avoided and that's just part of the game. But as a fisherman I'm really not a big fan of driving in creeks and rivers. Slip off a rock wrong and split the oil pan, damage a radiator hose, peel the rear diff cover back over a rock..all bad situations made worse when that stuff leaks into the water. Plus unless it's part of a 4wd trail it or sanctioned park/private property it makes all of us Jeepers and Offroaders look bad when and innocent little drive turns into a small eco disaster and that's what gets area and trails shut down. The headline over here would read "renegade Jeepers destroy local trout stream with illeagal antics" Even if no oil was spilled the tire tracks alone would be enough to get the area closed to vehicles...Ok rant off..

From the offroader veiwpoint I'd be more worred about my diff, trans and transfer case breathers. With water that deep just give up and expect your carpets and seats getting soaked! Clean that up later. But yeah, extend those breathers!

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Trust me... all your side doors will leak and the back hatch door will too.

Been there... done that... in a water hole crossing with a 2010 Rubi. The water was high enough that my 33" wheels were completely submerged.

The good thing is that the carpets come out pretty easily for drying.
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Yes your doors will leak and you NEED to raise breathers.

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Umm first off do NOTTTTTTTTT drive up a creek with your jeep, its not a kayak or Canoe. How did you come up with the idea that "taking a trip" up a creek was a good idea? I love me some big puddles and deep water/mud but would NEVER drive up a creek

For deep PUDDLES and such you need to raise all 4 of your breathers and you really should get a snorkel or you risk hydro locking your motor, which means you blow it up and will need a new one.


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ive been up the creek before about 2 weeks ago and its easy to get up it with no problem, its just that its at the bottom of a ski slope and with it getting warmer out the snows slowly melting and the creek is getting a little higher and just wondering on the door seal and trans
just because you've driven up it before does not mean it is legal and that you should be doing it. Who's land is the creek on?

the door seals do not seal water out if you are driving thru it for more then just crossing a puddle, they also don't hold water out if you get stuck.


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No, going up shit creek is gay!

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They are both fun, and I like to mix them, but that is usually on marked trails.

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im prettr sure i know where your headed. for water that deep you may want to change your gear oil after, unless you can get your breathers raised before then.
If you have a auto just be carefull the water doesnt go above the breather on the tranny. if you have a stick dont push the clutch in when your in deep water.
Also be carefull up there, a few years ago my friend got a decent size ($400) ticket for just being on the dirt road there, not sure if anythings changed in the last 6 or 7 years

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im prettr sure i know where your headed. for water that deep you may want to change your gear oil after, unless you can get your breathers raised before then.
If you have a auto just be carefull the water doesnt go above the breather on the tranny. if you have a stick dont push the clutch in when your in deep water.
Also be carefull up there, a few years ago my friend got a decent size ($400) ticket for just being on the dirt road there, not sure if anythings changed in the last 6 or 7 years

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thanks guys for the advise i guess ill have to get some breathers before so im not up shits creeks !!

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keep an eye on your radiator fan as well, that will fry very easily. Not fun to overheat out in the middle of nowhere

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keep an eye on your radiator fan as well, that will fry very easily. Not fun to overheat out in the middle of nowhere
Been there, done that. I clogged the fan motor with clay muddy water.

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so is occionally 50ft creek crossing fine for my transmission or an i deff going to have to go with the breathers, ive been trying to research but the subject keeps getting off topic, ive found a thread TKOB put on for the tran and transfer breather wondering if thats all i will have to be installing ?
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so is occionally 50ft creek crossing fine for my transmission or an i deff going to have to go with the breathers, ive been trying to research but the subject keeps getting off topic, ive found a thread TKOB put on for the tran and transfer breather wondering if thats all i will have to be installing ?
Unless you plan on going deeper than half way up your doors you will be fine without extending the breathers. I just had mine up on a lift and they seem high enough for my needs

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Unless you plan on going deeper than half way up your doors you will be fine without extending the breathers. I just had mine up on a lift and they seem high enough for my needs
so you can plan on how deep the puddle, creek or streams are that you cross? Yeah I dont think so.

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