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Rock sliders with steps?

I'm looking for a good set of rock sliders with a step or some kind of rail to use as a step. Who makes a good quality slider that has these options. I don't want to spend a ton of money on them, but I want them to be worthy of some rock rash. Who do you guys use? Thanks....

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You want one of the frame mounted sliders (like Shrockworks) if you want to use it as a step. The non-frame mounted sliders (like PureJeep and Poison Spyder) may look like they have steps, but actually do not (you have to step over the slider to get into the Jeep).

The trade off is:
The frame mounted sliders can legitimately be used as a step, but you loose ground clearance (really isn't a huge deal if you are lifted pretty high or don't rock crawl).
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You want one of the frame mounted sliders (like Shrockworks) if you want to use it as a step. The non-frame mounted sliders (like PureJeep and Poison Spyder) may look like they have steps, but actually do not (you have to step over the slider to get into the Jeep).

The trade off is:
The frame mounted sliders can legitimately be used as a step, but you loose ground clearance (really isn't a huge deal if you are lifted pretty high or don't rock crawl).
I really like my Pure Jeep ones.

I have used the step to climb up and get snow off my hardtop.

However, I've never used it as a step to get into the Jeep because its at the same level as the doorsill and thus makes no sense as a step in that use case.

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I've got these, and I love em. the only thing different is that the pic doesn't show them with a step surface in the middle. I've also bashed them a bit on some rocks at Disney. They're solid, and the price is right.

http://www.smittybilt.com/product/index/49.htm
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i would recommend body armor. for the price, it's awesome. also recommend ace engineering, adam is a great guy to deal with.

http://www.aceengineeringandfab.com/rock-rails/

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I've got these, and I love em. the only thing different is that the pic doesn't show them with a step surface in the middle. I've also bashed them a bit on some rocks at Disney. They're solid, and the price is right.

http://www.smittybilt.com/product/index/49.htm
I have the same ones. I don't use the step as I'm tall but my pregnant wife likes the steps. The nice thing about them is the width of the actuall step.


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If you want a step check out

Nemesis Industries Billy Rockers http://www.nem-ind.com/catalog/jk-0

Or

Poison Spyder's Brawler Rockers http://www.poisonspyder.com

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PSC Brawler Rockers have basically a step - or check out the Ace Engineering Rock rails - for the $ you can't beat those...

http://www.aceengineeringandfab.com/rock-rails/

No ground clearance issue with those at all - they mount on the body mounts - I guess you may lose some immediately under the rocker - but it's protected now with tube.

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@ firstjeep yeah, my wife likes the step too.

Also, there aren't any ground clearance issues, as the factory skid plate hangs lower than the bottom tube of the slider.


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@ firstjeep yeah, my wife likes the step too.

Also, there aren't any ground clearance issues, as the factory skid plate hangs lower than the bottom tube of the slider.
Is this a JK thing? On my YJ and TJ's, I chose my lines to keep my diff's way clear, my underbelly as clear as I could, and my gas tank in the butt armored well (it always took a beating...but Kilby took care of that).

But it seems the rockers took the brunt when making those decisions. The difference between frame mounted rails and body mounted plating was as good as a 4" suspension lift. I went back and forth with both...and frame mounted rails/tubes/whatever always got the shit beat out of them...sometimes just broke off. Some were better than others, but frame mounted rails always got bashed...and would get pushed up and cause body damage.

My fav's were the Off Your Rockers diamond plates I put on my '95 YJ...but I don't think they ever touched a rock...they had so much clearance. But...they had no steps. I previously had ShittlyBilt tube steps on that Jeep (it was my first Jeep...newbie) but I broke one off just pulling off the highway once. I don't know if OYR is still in business, but if I gets my 2012 Jeep, I'll be looking for a set!

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Thanks for the replies. The 2 I have been looking at are the Smittybilt and the ACEengineering. I really like the style of the ACE ones, but wasn't sure on how accessible that step would be for a short wife!! My wife HAS to have a step to get in. What's everyones take on quality between the 2 mentioned ones? Thanks....

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I can't help you with the Smittybilt ones, but the ACE Engineering ones look great, and my wife likes them for the step. One of the main reasons I bought from ACE was their's is about the only ones I found that would fit with the Rubicon stock rock rails. I haven't wheeled with them yet, to see how they will hold up.
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Rock Hard sprayed in Line X on the step part



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Is this a JK thing? On my YJ and TJ's, I chose my lines to keep my diff's way clear, my underbelly as clear as I could, and my gas tank in the butt armored well (it always took a beating...but Kilby took care of that).

But it seems the rockers took the brunt when making those decisions. The difference between frame mounted rails and body mounted plating was as good as a 4" suspension lift. I went back and forth with both...and frame mounted rails/tubes/whatever always got the shit beat out of them...sometimes just broke off. Some were better than others, but frame mounted rails always got bashed...and would get pushed up and cause body damage.

My fav's were the Off Your Rockers diamond plates I put on my '95 YJ...but I don't think they ever touched a rock...they had so much clearance. But...they had no steps. I previously had ShittlyBilt tube steps on that Jeep (it was my first Jeep...newbie) but I broke one off just pulling off the highway once. I don't know if OYR is still in business, but if I gets my 2012 Jeep, I'll be looking for a set!
I can't speak to it being a JK thing or not, but to clarify, it's not a huge distance between the two, maybe a couple of inches. I'll try to get some pics to show what I mean. don't get me wrong, the rails get plenty of sliding, but they're not so low that they hit everything you wantt o drive over.
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I can't help you with the Smittybilt ones, but the ACE Engineering ones look great, and my wife likes them for the step. One of the main reasons I bought from ACE was their's is about the only ones I found that would fit with the Rubicon stock rock rails. I haven't wheeled with them yet, to see how they will hold up.
Smitty is bottom of the barrel quality, a product of 10 year olds in Chinese labor camps. If you just want a step and stay away from the rocks, they should be fine. When I first bought my JK, I went with the Smitty sliders and destroyed them on my 2nd trip offroad. You get what you pay for.

I don't particularly like how the ACE rails only attach at a couple of points (for my style of wheeling), but I havn't heard of any problems, and they are made in the USA.
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I don't particularly like how the ACE rails only attach at a couple of points (for my style of wheeling), but I havn't heard of any problems, and they are made in the USA.
He's added a 3rd mount as well - and no drilling, etc. I have seen some video on here of them taking some serious hits as well. And Very much Made in the USA.

I have the Olympics and for many reasons will not recommend them - powder chips way too easy, no primer underneath that, bad customer service (remember the whole tire carrier thread). Once I smash these - I will probably be giving Ace the call or save the money and get the PSC Brawler Rockers (my preference)...

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I have the ACE rails and the work well as a step. My ex is only 5'1" and loved them and I love how they look.
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I have the ACE rails and the work well as a step. My ex is only 5'1" and loved them and I love how they look.
That's good to hear. My wife is 5'2" and I really need something that works as a step. I think this is the way I'll go. The price ain't bad either. And like everyone else has said, they're US made!!

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The made in the US is what pushed it over the edge for me. If you are looking for a bumper later on check out ACE's stubby front bumper. I just installed mine this weekend with my winch. Nice products!
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I have MBRP sliders with detachable steps. The rails have held up well, the steps are well positioned, low enough for little kids and short chicks. That said I have never had anything from MBRP fit out of the box, these and their exhaust, even putting their steps on there rails the first time where all a total pain in the ass.

Charging as much as they do they should fit as advertised, but once you finally get the stuff on it holds up pretty well.
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I have T&T Customs and love them. Stout as heck. They have a dimple plate which IMO makes the stepping easier than, say, a Shrockworks design. Check them out. Now, their powercoating wasn't the greatest though...

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can someone post some pics of how the ace rock rails are mounted?

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can someone post some pics of how the ace rock rails are mounted?
You can check this thread out for all the info.

https://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27205

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