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Lug nut key

Its late and Discount Tire is not open, but I want to ask because its bugging me, does anyone know if they carry lug nuts with keys in the store? I got my tires and the lugs from discount tire direct. I hope they will sell me the key without having to buy them all over again.

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Well tonight I was rotating my tires (supposed to be easy) and the lug nut key broke. It has a crack running the length of it. Of course it happened when I was torquing down the back tires. I was able to get all but one off and ended up loosing my 17mm socket due to a stuck lug nut. I am lucky that I bought some Gorilla Acorn Blue 1/2" lug nuts so now the rear (all but one) are those, all torqued but the one (which I think is about 80 ft/lbs). I assume the Gorillas are okay to use.

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Usually have to buy the set. I had a lock nut onmy spare when i bought my jeep and NO ONE would or could sell me just the key.
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Mine came with McGuard keys and lugs... if you have the number email or call the company and you can get another one.

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Are they locks, or spline drives?

I work at belle if there locks you can contact the manufacture mcguard or gorilla most likely and order another key.

If all the lug nuts are the same and they use a splined socket to fit them then yes we carry those sockets, they run about 5 bucks I belive.
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Mine came with McGuard keys and lugs... if you have the number email or call the company and you can get another one.
What he said....hope they gave you the package!

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I got rid of my locking lug nuts after having to wait for a month for a key from the factory. The knuckle heads at the tire store stripped my key with the air wrench. Apparently they have to be ordered by your serial number if you have Jeep , factory locks. Never again
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Discount Tire had the key I needed and gave me a new lug plus the key for free, can't beat that.

I am thinking I am going to switch everything over to the gorilla nuts instead. It uses the 1/2 socket, not really worried about anyone jacking my tires, they would go get someones with 35s or larger first!

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Discount Tire had the key I needed and gave me a new lug plus the key for free, can't beat that.

I am thinking I am going to switch everything over to the gorilla nuts instead. It uses the 1/2 socket, not really worried about anyone jacking my tires, they would go get someones with 35s or larger first!
I use Gorilla Spline Drive nuts. I love them.

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You can get a universal wheel lock removal kit off of amazon.com that will remove almost all factory and aftermarket wheel lock sets, ask me how I know.

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Mine came with McGuard keys and lugs... if you have the number email or call the company and you can get another one.
The MOPAR locking lug nuts are McGuard. When I had Mine in for service I had them do a free tire rotation, but they couldn't find the lug key. I'm thinking they lost it, but they wouldn't fess up to it. As the McGuard factory is on my way to work, I stopped in showed them the card that came with the lug nuts and I got 2 keys for $18.
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I've had locking lug nuts on several of my vehicles and for the price of it buying an extra key when you first get them is just being smart. Afterall you don't have just one key to your Jeep do you?

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1. Locking lug nuts are dangerous in the trails... If you break the lock or the key you're screwed...

2. Never torque the locking nut higher than 40-50 lbs (and by hand only!!)... The "secret pattern" is not made to hold any force, it's there just to make it harder to steal the wheel...
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1. Locking lug nuts are dangerous in the trails... If you break the lock or the key you're screwed...

2. Never torque the locking nut higher than 40-50 lbs (and by hand only!!)... The "secret pattern" is not made to hold any force, it's there just to make it harder to steal the wheel...
I've torqued a few hundred BMW locks well over 100ft/lb. Never broken any.

A hammer and a slightly larger socket will get a "dangerous" lock off pretty quickly.

Your a fool and bought pos locks in the first place if you are breaking keys. Mine have never been torqued less than 95ft/lb on my Jk and have been on and off dozens of times. Factory

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What Goody said.... I torque mine down to 100lbs every time... rotate every 5000kms, been doing this for years. No issues.

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I broke my lug nut ket while changing out a tire on the trail. It sucked. I was lucky that a guy i was wheeling with had the same lugs and the same key. I used his.

You can buy just the key that you need off eBay, you just have to do the background work to find the correct one. I have gorilla lugs and have been using my replacement key ever since the first one broke. I bought a spare just in case.

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It sounds like the gorilla keys/locks are the only ones people are breaking, right? I use McGard and torque mine like Goody and no issues so far.

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All of the above.

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I've torqued a few hundred BMW locks well over 100ft/lb. Never broken any.
Are the BMW locks better than the aftermarket ones?
Do the car really has something to do with the locks?

Me I had some on there when I got the Jeep.
Broke the key (little pattern inside) while undoing a tire maybe on the second rotation.
I used to put them at 90-100lbs and the garage said not to go over 50...
But I removed them anyway because if it breaks on the trail, I dont want to do 10km offroad on a mag...
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Are the BMW locks better than the aftermarket ones?
Do the car really has something to do with the locks?
Being I am a BMW master tech/dealer tech they are a similar design. The point was they've gone up to well over 100ft/lb with an impact and no broken keys. I guess the "trail" is harsher than a few bips of my 750ft/lb 1/2" impact

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I guess the "trail" is harsher than a few bips of my 750ft/lb 1/2" impact
Heh... Also bigger tires on a Jeep bend axles and break locking nut keys!
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It sounds like the gorilla keys/locks are the only ones people are breaking, right? I use McGard and torque mine like Goody and no issues so far.
mine were the factory Mcgard ones. And they wouldn't come off by using a larger socket hammered onto them either. We tryed. They are made with a slip ring to prevent that. The only way to get them off without damaging my wheels was to order a new key. Nobody around where I live steals wheels anyway, so why have the hassle of lock nuts
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