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Bad Tie rods at 55k?

Hey all..
I tried getting an alignment to try to cure the nasty bump steer and occassional death wobble I've experienced but Sears said my truck needs new tie rod ends.

I have a 2007 unlimited X with 1.75" spacer lift and 285/75r16's.
Don't really wheel much, mainly DD duty.

When I hit a pothole on the passenger side tire it triggers death wobble, depending on how fast I'm going.
When I hit a pothole on driver side it just gives me some nasty bump steer.

Ball joints are still solid.

What do you guys recommend?
Is 55k about time for tie rod ends?
Where do you recommend I buy them from?
Or should I just start throwing aftermarket beefy steering parts at it?

Any info is greatly appreciated!!
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I replaced mine at 19k. Moog sells greasable ends for about $30+/- that are good replacements.

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Before replacing parts, have you checked to make sure that everything is tight and torqued to spec? Also check and make sure that all of your braketry is intack and straight. it is possible that your track bar bracket is brocken or bent, bolts have loosened up or bolt holes have wallowed out.
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Thanks for the replies.
I'll take a torque wrench to everything this weekend to double check it before throwing parts at it.
And I'll pull the track bar and check the bracket.

The Moog tie rod ends can be purchased at any auto parts store?
I don't need to order anything special for the JK, right?

Thanks again!
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Thanks for the replies.
I'll take a torque wrench to everything this weekend to double check it before throwing parts at it.
And I'll pull the track bar and check the bracket.

The Moog tie rod ends can be purchased at any auto parts store?
I don't need to order anything special for the JK, right?

Thanks again!
You will need the JK specific ends, but they should have them. I get mine at Kragen/O'rielly. I dont have the part number off hand, but it is in thier computers.

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The passenger tie rod end is molded into the entire tie rod. How are you guys servicing these?

Or are you talking drag link...

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The passenger tie rod end is molded into the entire tie rod. How are you guys servicing these?

Or are you talking drag link...
The passenger tie rod end is actually removable, get yourself a pipe wrench and a 14" adjustable and it will thread right out.

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The passenger tie rod end is actually removable, get yourself a pipe wrench and a 14" adjustable and it will thread right out.
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At 55k miles, I've already replaced mine more than once =)

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mine have been replaced a few times.

Changing out to a HD tie rod with stronger ends soon.

Either the Rock Krawler with the Moog replacement ends (same as the one which goes on the drag link, pitman arm end) or the Poly performance tie rod.

ex: RHD JK 2dr CRD auto
now: RHD JK 2dr Rubicon 3.8 6spd
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Is it worth replacing them with a HD tie rod and beefy ends instead of replacing with Moog or stock equivalent?

I really don't want to change them again when I go with larger tires.
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Hey all..
I tried getting an alignment to try to cure the nasty bump steer and occassional death wobble I've experienced but Sears said my truck needs new tie rod ends.

I have a 2007 unlimited X with 1.75" spacer lift and 285/75r16's.
Don't really wheel much, mainly DD duty.

When I hit a pothole on the passenger side tire it triggers death wobble, depending on how fast I'm going.
When I hit a pothole on driver side it just gives me some nasty bump steer.

Ball joints are still solid.

What do you guys recommend?
Is 55k about time for tie rod ends?
Where do you recommend I buy them from?
Or should I just start throwing aftermarket beefy steering parts at it?

Any info is greatly appreciated!!
What you are describing is not a tie rod issue. It is a trackbar issue and/or lower ball joint issue.

The way you check your tie rod ends is with a large channel lock pliers.




You use the pliers to check for up and down play of the end at the knuckle.


The way you check the lower ball joints is to set the front axle on jack stands a couple inches off the ground, and then you use a long pry bar under the tire to lift it up and inspect for up and down play in the lower ball joint. The old method of trying to move the tire by hand is not sufficient with the weight and size of tires typically run on a modified JK.


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thanks for the response.
I'll give it a shot this weekend.
Sears (and myself) checked the ball joints by grabbing the tire and checking for play in the up and down and side to side and it seemed solid.

Obviously based on your description the test we did doesn't prove anything.

Thanks again for the heads up.
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