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To Bead Lock or Not to bead lock?

In considering what wheels to put on the JK I'm wondering if bead locks are a good idea. I'm considering Staun Internal bead locks since most externals have safety concerns.

So my main question is, If I have a flat or need a tire replaced in the middle of nowhere USA and pull into Joes Garage. Will Gomer the mechanic be able to cope with the bead locks? Or will I have to get towed to the nearest 4x4 shop?

I have never popped a bead off before. I've been wheeling Yota trucks. This is my first Jeep. However I go out alone a lot and would like insurance of a bead lock.

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That really depends on what kind of wheeling you do. Are you planning on running single digit air pressures? For me, bead locks are a waste of money. I air down to about 14psi if we are trail riding, and 10psi if we are hitting a lot of rocks. I've seen a couple people pop a bead, but both times we jacked up the jeep, reset the bead with a co2 tank and were on out way. If you have the money to spend 350 bucks a wheel then go for it! Otherwise, a co2 setup is cheap insurance and you need a way to air back up when you are done wheeling anyway. Just my humble opinion.

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Stauns are fairly easy to live with, but they are a fair amount of work to install/uninstall. If you pay someone to install them for you and you don;t know how to install/uninstall then yes, you'll need to take it to a 4x4 shop. Joe's tire shop will probably have zero idea what you're talking about. OTOH, if you know how to install/uninstall the Staun IBL then you can go anywhere. You'll have the knowledge/skills to be able to help do whatever work needs to be done.

If you can get past the H3 portion of the article, have a look at this. Its an article I wrote for Off-Road.com covering the Staun IBL in-depth.

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99% of tire shops will not touch external beadlocks past popping the back bead onto the rim for you and adding air and sometimes balancing, and aren't going to know what to do with internal beadlocks, so definitely carry a spare on your wheeling trips.

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That really depends on what kind of wheeling you do. Are you planning on running single digit air pressures? For me, bead locks are a waste of money. I air down to about 14psi if we are trail riding, and 10psi if we are hitting a lot of rocks. I've seen a couple people pop a bead, but both times we jacked up the jeep, reset the bead with a co2 tank and were on out way. If you have the money to spend 350 bucks a wheel then go for it! Otherwise, a co2 setup is cheap insurance and you need a way to air back up when you are done wheeling anyway. Just my humble opinion.
X2 While there are some clear advantages to running beadlocks, they are not essential for 99% of the wheeling you will do in a JK in my view.

I run 10 or 12 psi without beadlocks all the time and never had a bead pop yet, but one day I will and I've seen plenty of others who have. Re-seating a bead with a CO2 tank is a piece of cake, and you have a spare.
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I generally run about 8 lbs without bead locks. Last weekend I checked my tire pressure after they had been aired down for a day and the temp dropped to around 20 in the AM. They had dropped from 8 to 6. I went ahead and ran with it.

My point is, they will work fine at low pressure without bead locks as I have not yet busted a bead, although I have come very close. The advantage of bead locks is that you can take them down to literally zero air pressure witch will give you some awesome grip when needed.

In either case, you will need to make sure you are covered with a backup. Either a spare tire or a bottle of CO2 would work. I suggest both.
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If you are in CA and your jeep is not being trailered but actually driven on the street, you may carefully way the hassels that come with bead locks on the roads. Though no actual code (that I know) actually prohibits them, the wheels must have the safety bead to be DOT approved. Proving yours have safety beads on the roadside isn't pretty. So expect a pull over or two (maybe a couple tickets here and there).

Just something to consider.
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dont run too wide rim for the tire and you will be fine I have 8.5 wide rims with 12.5 wide tires running 10 psi and I havent lost a bead yet




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Not really necessary, I've run 12.50's on 10" wide rims for years and never really had an issue. I due run steel reverse built rims which puts the bead hump on the outer side of the rim. It has probably saved me a tire or two in the long run; by popping off the rim instead of tearing into the sidewall.

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