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Power Steering took a crap in my 2010

I was out wheeling this morning with a buddy of mine. We just hit the trail and came to a clearing. I was showing off for my son and turning some donuts, (just a couple) then when we quit and went on our way I didn't have any power steering!! There are no leaks and the fluid level is good. The belt is fine. That only leaves the pump. Has anybody else had issues with this or something similar... I called the stealership and they said to bring it in first thing Monday. He said they didn't care about my 35's.
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yep mine took a dump instead of dealing with stealership i just dropped 1800 and got a psc ram assist with cooler and never looked back extremly satisfied with my purchase.
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I had to have mine changed out too.

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I've had 4 on my 09. Yes, 4. MY lifetime bumper to bumper was voided because of this crap..
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they replaced mine under warranty, and () said it had nothing to do with the lift or tires. gotta love a good maintenance dept that understands. these things are supposed to be taken to places other than parking lot at bass pro shops and the factory steering gearbox is not capable of holding up to even stock tires. the guy in charge of the shop there said that completely stock gearboxes break all the time.

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It's good and bad to hear that this isn't an isolated problem. It sounds like my dealership is cool with mods as long as they are not the cause of the failure. Would a PSC hydro assist help prevent failure on the new pump? I understand the mechanics behind it, but would it take that much strain off the pump?
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My 07's steering pump broke about 3 years ago and was replaced under warantee. The dealer told me the impeller separated from the shaft and he had replaced a few before I brought mine in. Jeep (corporate) must know of this problem.

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I've had 4 on my 09. Yes, 4. MY lifetime bumper to bumper was voided because of this crap..
They legally can't do that... they are only legally allowed to deny a warranty issue if they can reasonably ascertain that your modification was directly related to the failure of the warranted part. Meaning if you put on bigger tires and your power steering pump dies... yeah, they don't have to cover that because they can prove the larger tires caused stress on the component. But if you put on bigger tires and your alternator dies, they still have to cover it. There is no such thing as a blanket warranty void, where modifying any part of the Jeep affects every other part. Every failure has to be reviewed on a case by case basis. If they are telling you anything other than that, show them a copy of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. You can read about it here:

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What he said. Call Chrysler and raise hell.

Let's see, what do we have so :

Self-combusting vehicles due to improper trasmission cooling design
Transfer cases that explode
Steering boxes & pumps that fail
Weak axle tunes & inner knuckles

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I've had 4 on my 09. Yes, 4. MY lifetime bumper to bumper was voided because of this crap..
Where did you get a lifetime bumper to bumper warranty? Lifetime is on the powertrain, which I'm not sure even includes the p/s pump to begin with.

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sounds like the piston in your stock pump locked up. If you remove the pump yourself, and pull out the piston..then put it back in...you should be fine.

Kinda weird that its doing that.

I went with the PSC 1600psi pump and filtered reservoir and no problems..

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They legally can't do that... they are only legally allowed to deny a warranty issue if they can reasonably ascertain that your modification was directly related to the failure of the warranted part. Meaning if you put on bigger tires and your power steering pump dies... yeah, they don't have to cover that because they can prove the larger tires caused stress on the component. But if you put on bigger tires and your alternator dies, they still have to cover it. There is no such thing as a blanket warranty void, where modifying any part of the Jeep affects every other part. Every failure has to be reviewed on a case by case basis. If they are telling you anything other than that, show them a copy of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. You can read about it here:

http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=60128


The lifetime 'warranty' that you are thinking about is actually a SERVICE CONTRACT. A contract that can be written with just about any number of provisions for denial and eventually annulment. MMWA does not cover service contracts. That person and any others that bought service contracts are SOL at the whim of the dealerships/corporate.
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Mine has been pissing out fluid. Im getting the PSC soon.

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What he said. Call Chrysler and raise hell.

Let's see, what do we have so :

Self-combusting vehicles due to improper trasmission cooling design
Transfer cases that explode
Steering boxes & pumps that fail
Weak axle tunes & inner knuckles

Please add to the list as you see fit!
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You forgot the:
Shitty Ball Joints
Death Shake
And most stock JK's pull right
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Where did you get a lifetime bumper to bumper warranty? Lifetime is on the powertrain, which I'm not sure even includes the p/s pump to begin with.

I bought it because I was assured that as long as I stayed under 3.5" lift it would be covered. Ron Carter in Alvin had my VIN flagged. Look in the Texas section I have a fairly large rant there..
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The lifetime 'warranty' that you are thinking about is actually a SERVICE CONTRACT. A contract that can be written with just about any number of provisions for denial and eventually annulment. MMWA does not cover service contracts. That person and any others that bought service contracts are SOL at the whim of the dealerships/corporate.
Are we talking about two different things then? My response is in regards to the factory/manufacturer's warranty, that's where the law protects the owner. Any aftermarket warranties, extended warranties, or dealer-offered stuff is separate and wouldn't have to be honored in the same way as the manufacturer's warranty.
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Also wanna add..

crappy tie rod and drag link ends
clunky steering
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yep mine took a dump instead of dealing with stealership i just dropped 1800 and got a psc ram assist with cooler and never looked back extremly satisfied with my purchase.
How does the PSC assist drive on the street?
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How does the PSC assist drive on the street?
I have never driven a jeep with PSC steering, but i understand its a little different feeling. Everyone says that you get used to it pretty quickly.

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Would the PSC absorb bumps and potholes more and make the Jeep feel more stable?
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