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Who's got the best prices?

Where did you get yours?

Want a 3/8" x 100' with Safety Thimble


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Who's got the best prices?

Where did you get yours?

Want a 3/8" x 100' with Safety Thimble

www.xtorm4wd.com or CLICK HERE TO SEE THE PRODUCT

Let me know so i can give you a CODE OFFER for check out.

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Holy shit! That works out to $3.61 per foot for the x-line.
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You can't just put synthetic line on any winch. The drums are either designed for synthetic or they're not.

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You can't just put synthetic line on any winch. The drums are either designed for synthetic or they're not.
Wrong, the fair lead is specific to synthetic line or not.

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Correct. the drum has nothing to do with it. It is the fairlead.

I am using Viking 100 foot, 3/8 and it was about $350.

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I swear by Master Pull XD line. But I am excessively abusive on winch rope.

I no longer work with Warrior. I am now working with The FIRM.
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Wrong, the fair lead is specific to synthetic line or not.
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Correct. the drum has nothing to do with it. It is the fairlead.

I am using Viking 100 foot, 3/8 and it was about $350.
That's not what the Superwinch rep and engineer said.

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Maybe Superwinches do something different to their drums, however I know with Warn it does not matter.

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That's not what the Superwinch rep and engineer said.
That's just absurd data. I've put synthetic rope on just about every type of winch out there.

PS - Many synthetic line companies will tell you that you can run steel rollers with synthetic if they're new and smooth, but in my experience they'll still give you problems. Personally, I've had synth line melt onto steel rollers.

So you can go to poly rollers, delrin rollers, aluminum rollers like we make, or hawse fairleads. I've had poly rollers flat out fail on me and ruin 20-25 feet of line. Delrin, Aluminum, or Hawse all seem like very good options through my experiences so far.

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That's just absurd data. I've put synthetic rope on just about every type of winch out there.

PS - Many synthetic line companies will tell you that you can run steel rollers with synthetic if they're new and smooth, but in my experience they'll still give you problems. Personally, I've had synth line melt onto steel rollers.

So you can go to poly rollers, delrin rollers, aluminum rollers like we make, or hawse fairleads. I've had poly rollers flat out fail on me and ruin 20-25 feet of line. Delrin, Aluminum, or Hawse all seem like very good options through my experiences so far.
Doesnt it have something to do with the placement of the brake in relation to the drum?.. Most winches put the brake inside the drum, while superwinch has it positioned outside the drum. When the brake is inside the drum, it can create alot of heat on the drum. I always thought that if you used a heat resistant rope for your first wrap or so, you would be fine with synth rope on any winch.

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Doesnt it have something to do with the placement of the brake in relation to the drum?.. Most winches put the brake inside the drum, while superwinch has it positioned outside the drum. When the brake is inside the drum, it can create alot of heat on the drum. I always thought that if you used a heat resistant rope for your first wrap or so, you would be fine with synth rope on any winch.
Could be, but most synthetic ropes have a heatshield on the first few feet that cover the first wrap around the drum making this a non-issue.

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http://www.bluehummer.com/syntheticline.html

best bang for buck i've found. Pretty sure it's amsteel too.

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Could be, but most synthetic ropes have a heatshield on the first few feet that cover the first wrap around the drum making this a non-issue.
i thought that sleeve thing was for abrasion... or am i thinking of something different?

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Could be, but most synthetic ropes have a heatshield on the first few feet that cover the first wrap around the drum making this a non-issue.
Yep, thats what I was thinking. Most rope is either heat resistant already or uses a heat resistant section for the first 15-20ft to save some $$. I know mine has enough heat resistant stuff spliced in at the beginning to cover the drum. I think the heat is only an issue when power unspooling under load anyway.

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i put redneck rope on my 8274. i use 3/8 x 100'. i'm told my winch is older than i am.

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i put redneck rope on my 8274. i use 3/8 x 100'. i'm told my winch is older than i am.
best winch ever. you can do the 9,000 lb motor conversion like i did OR they have a DUAL MOTOR conversion too! and you went conservative at 100', you can run 150' with that thing!

i had one on my willys. it was awesome.


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best winch ever. you can do the 9,000 lb motor conversion like i did OR they have a DUAL MOTOR conversion too! and you went conservative at 100', you can run 150' with that thing!

i had one on my willys. it was awesome.

9k motor? yikes. i've never heard of that or the dual motor set up. nice flat fender. that's my main project is to find an old flat fender and fix her up.

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You can't just put synthetic line on any winch. The drums are either designed for synthetic or they're not.
Wrong, I went to a synthetic line and haven't had a single problem. You need a plastic roller fairlead or a Hawse fairlead to run a synthetic line. The drum gets hot under releasing tension using the brake to control the load, not under load pulling an object in.

I went with the Viking/Samson 3/8"x100' and safety thimble on my Superwinch Epi9.0. I'd never un anything else but synthetic now.

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I have had a technora synthetic line on my warn HS9500I for 10 years now. When I changed it out, I did smooth over the drum. There were small weld splatters on edges of the drum and any synthetic is more susceptible to abrasion than is steel. Also, make sure you don't use any snatch blocks or other equipement that might have been used with wire rope. Wire will often cause ridges or other areas on the equipment that will abrade the synthetic.

Mine doesnt get tons of use, but it does get used. Dominion Offroad, a JKO vendor (Wood's or Jeepswag are the same company / person) offers a great deal on Technora with a safetey thimble. When I decided on Technora, I had to build my own as everyone was still using amsteel blue. Both have their good / bad and some use a blend of technora for the innermost wraps (it has the best heat resistance) and amsteel outer for better abrasion resistance. Check it out here:
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