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Ok so everyones talkin SNORKEL...but

So i see guys have Snorkels on their jeeps, i had one on my TJ, but can someone explain to me what this actualy protects you from....like i know it keeps your engine from sucking in water, but what about if your entire engine is submerged...So what im asking really is how do you waterproof your engine? Ive been told snorkels are useless unless everything else is water tight? Is that even possible? If so how much am i looking at puttin into it? Thanx everyone!
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Engine is water tight besides the intake. If a running engine ingests water it will hydrolock. 9 times out of 10. The other parts that are not water proof are the axles, trans, and transfer case. These all have breather tubes that can be extended to a higher point or inside the cab to keep water from going into them.

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What he said! The only suggestion that I can add is to put dialiectric grease on all of your electrical connections - water and electricity don't mix well.

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What he said! The only suggestion that I can add is to put dialiectric grease on all of your electrical connections - water and electricity don't mix well.

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So i see guys have Snorkels on their jeeps, i had one on my TJ, but can someone explain to me what this actualy protects you from....like i know it keeps your engine from sucking in water, but what about if your entire engine is submerged...So what im asking really is how do you waterproof your engine? Ive been told snorkels are useless unless everything else is water tight? Is that even possible? If so how much am i looking at puttin into it? Thanx everyone!
I guarantee that is coming from guys that are used to running distributors that crap out soon as they get wet, the jk does not have that problem. I've never done anything to mine except the snorkel and raised all my breathers. I've probably had mine in more water then everyone on here.

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"The tkob is coming!! The tkob is coming!!"
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I guarantee that is coming from guys that are used to running distributors that crap out soon as they get wet, the jk does not have that problem. I've never done anything to mine except the snorkel and raised all my breathers. I've probably had mine in more water then everyone on here.

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Wow! I think you Win the water award! Have you considered just putting a propeller on the back?

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Wow! I think you Win the water award! Have you considered just putting a propeller on the back?
Hahaaaa... No joke.

I got mine for peace of mind when traveling through water.... Don't plan on going all TK in it.
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I guarantee that is coming from guys that are used to running distributors that crap out soon as they get wet, the jk does not have that problem. I've never done anything to mine except the snorkel and raised all my breathers. I've probably had mine in more water then everyone on here.

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Just out of curiosity what tires are you using?
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yeah i did that with my old xj discovered they float in 4 feet of water.. and in the long run i started having electrical problems push the window switch and the radio would turn off and on turn the engine off and the light but the lights would not turn off. and the smell from all the mud and water that was "in" the doors ahaha but i have to say the snorkel did what it was put on the jeep to do, it kept that 4.0 running... you are one crazy man to put a jk rubi unlimited through all that water in my eyes. unless you have all the money in the world and can afford to do so lol but i do like watching your videos they are bad ass reminds me off all the water crossing i did in the old xj i got rid of.
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Whether you need a snorkel at all depends on where you live and like to wheel.

If you live near the NJ Pine Barrens or the FL everglades, definitely get a snorkel.

If you live in California or Arizona, the snorkel just gets in the way in those tight rocky canyons.
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Its not about deep water you can fly thru a puddle and full your air box, the air intake is just in a bad spot. A snork is insurance, imo. Other people its a way of life, (you know who you are):beer

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Whether you need a snorkel at all depends on where you live and like to wheel.

If you live near the NJ Pine Barrens, the FL everglades, or Ocala in the dry season then definitely get a snorkel.

If you live in California or Arizona, the snorkel just gets in the way in those tight rocky canyons.
Running a pre-filter comes in handy for dusty trails too.


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hell i want one just for the peace of mind running to work in the mornings, I backed out of the driveway last month and had water to the hubs. Rained its ass off and drainage in these flat states aint so great.

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Just out of curiosity what tires are you using?
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Whether you need a snorkel at all depends on where you live and like to wheel.

If you live near the NJ Pine Barrens or the FL everglades, definitely get a snorkel.

If you live in California or Arizona, the snorkel just gets in the way in those tight rocky canyons.
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Its not about deep water you can fly thru a puddle and full your air box, the air intake is just in a bad spot. A snork is insurance, imo. Other people its a way of life, (you know who you are):beer
The problem with the air intake is more a problem with the serpentine belt, anyone that wheels in water or mud that comes up to the bottom crankshaft pulley can take a look at the inside of their hood and see a water line above the belt going from driver side to passenger side. That line generally ends right just a few inches from the stock airbox intake which is like a vacuum. IMO that along with a little to fast into puddles is why so many JK's have hydrolocked


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TK you think thats how its getting sucked in I allways thought it rolled in over the fender. Ive seen that sling line under the hood but never put 2&2 together. The wifes tag might say UNSUB but you are THESUB! Carry on sir! When it comes to wet feet you are the man!

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TK you think thats how its getting sucked in I allways thought it rolled in over the fender. Ive seen that sling line under the hood but never put 2&2 together. The wifes tag might say UNSUB but you are THESUB! Carry on sir! When it comes to wet feet you are the man!
I've actually opened my hood before in water and seen the water shooting off the belt, besides all the lines across inside of hood, and just think of how fast the belt is turning. I do think some have been hydro'd from water over hood but it's a lot harder to get the water inside and under the hood from on top of it IMO.


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When I first got my Rubi I put a Air Raid CAI on it, what a mistake. I own some unused farm land and drive through waist high weeds and deep muddy ruts.
My son a snorkel for me because of the mud, seeds, and stuff getting sucked into the air filter. We had to keep a spare filter because it would get clogged every time we went camping.

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There's lots of things to think about before going through water/mud over the hood. Yes you will probably be fine if you do it once and move on, but looking at those submarine pics makes me cringe... i don't know why you'd do that to such a new rig... I guess if you like cleaning...


we have a mud pit at jeepfest every year and i can't tell you how many JK's i see burning out their fans.

Also, you're never going to get it all out of everywhere. Mud is hell on seals, it clogs radiators and condensors, and it makes it suck to work on later... all the n00b's love mud but i hate it with everything in me....

Water... well... sometimes you just HAVE to cross a creek/river.... you don't have a choice. If you DO have a choice, don't do it. it's always risky to be in water that deep. seals in the doors can leak, if you forget a drain plug it comes in, that nice ECU right by your battery doesn't like water, the electronics behind the dash (right in front of the shifter) don't like water...

look what happened to that yellow jeep on the "other forum"... i think it was tonka or whatever. He killed his motor/tranny/electronics from doing stuff like that, and he had a snorkel.

31 jeeps in... still have issues
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Also, you're never going to get it all out of everywhere. Mud is hell on seals, it clogs radiators and condensors, and it makes it suck to work on later... all the n00b's love mud but i hate it with everything in me....
HAHAHA, thats exactly how I feel; I let the "kids" play in the mud pits. After many years of dealing with it, the enjoyment wears off fast when you start dealing with the aftermath (short radiator/fan/electrical component/joint life, and the f'ing clean-up). I avoid mud when I can. I also feel the same way about car crushes; after spending a thousand in sliced sidewalls - the fun wears off quickly.
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