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post #1 of 52 Old 10-30-2010, 05:13 PM Thread Starter
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How much Winch is "enough"

Hey Guys,
So, I'm getting ready to buy a winch for my Unlimited - I know it weighs around 5,000lbs with the hardtop and stuff I've put on it. I've heard a couple different rules of thumb on what level of winch will do everything I need. I was hoping we could get a consensus going here.
Also, I've heard good things about Warn, obviously, and Ramsey, but who else should i consider. This isn't a purchase I want to have to make twice, but I don't want to spend more money for no reason. Help a newbie out.
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Minimum acceptable would be 8,000 lbs. Ideal would be 12,000 lbs. Good investment would be a snatch-block too.

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I would go 9K or up and like Stub said definitely get a snatch block and its good to have a short strap to wrap around a tree. Winch accessory kit comes with all the goods you need. I used my snatch block couple weeks ago to pull out a TJ and XJ that were both stuck and chained to each other. I had my rear strapped to tree behind me. I wouldn't have budged them without it. I have a 9K warn.


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Snatch-block and tree strap etc. are all definitely happening at the same time. I know the winch is damn near useless without the tools. Is the Warn really worth the money?
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I run the Warn 9500 power plant, and am really happy with it. They ran a sell shortly after I bought mine and had the 12000# for not much more that the 9500. The benefits of this winch it you will get the air too. But you will probably want to watch what bumper you install to keep the mounting down low.
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Snatch-block and tree strap etc. are all definitely happening at the same time. I know the winch is damn near useless without the tools. Is the Warn really worth the money?
well I dunno, I have the Warn and after 2 years plus of dunking it in a little bit of water and covering it with some mud it needs to be torn down and rebuilt. It was not sounding good a couple weeks ago, but honestly I can't complain much its really been under water a couple hundred times I havent been able to turn it to free spool in over a year though.

I need one of those fancy new water proof winches.


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I have a 12,000lb on a two door. Was going to get a 10k but got a good deal on it. Can never have too much! The bigger the winch the easier it pulls on the electrical system compare to a smaller winch.

At 8000lb my 12k pulls like 140a less than a 8k at 8k load. Nearly 50% less current draw if i remember right.

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I would say 9K would be great. I really like my Superwinch EPi9.0 I have owned two of them and they are great winches. I also have and have used my snatchblock.

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I just bought a XRC8 from Qtec a few weeks ago, mianly to fill the void in my bumper, but also to have a winch for recovery purposes. I don't intend to use it a lot or to push it to its maximum tolerances, so I think it'll be enough for me. I will be getting a recovery pack to add some shackles, straps, and a snatch block.

Warns are super-expensive. Superwinch puts as much R&D into theirs and makes a nice product like the EPI 9.0s. Smittybilt makes a knock-off Powerplant for $750ish.

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Budget? Always a consideration. Don't get into a situation your wallet can't handle, right?

You have to consider WHAT you are using your winch for? (See below)

How rigged is your Jeep? A stock jeep gets stuck easier than a heavily modded one...but may also not attempt as difficult a path either.

Also, you can't drop a real heavy winch on stock springs as readily as HD springs etc.

If you are often in extreme terrain, where you regularly NEED the winch to even progress up the trail, you need to go big - dual battery and large electric winch...or even hydraulic winch.

If you are only using your winch for emergency situations, or to pull you out of that one tough spot on the easy trail where you get stupid, you can go smaller/cheaper.

So, WHAT are you planning to use it for?

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Rule of thumb for winches is 1.5 times the gross weight (loaded) of the vehicle. I use a warn 8000i works perfectly every time.

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Superwinch Epi9.0S



Its a great winch for the money, and it will not fail.

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1.5 times the curb weight is the generally recommended minimum... 2.5 times the curb weight pretty much guarantees you wont run into any issues. Everyone will always have an opinion on how much you need. My opinion: You can never have enough, if you can afford a 12K winch, get it.

I run a 12000lbs winch, I got a smoking deal on it, its off brand made in china and I've abused the crap out of it. Its got probably close to 100 pulls on it since I got it last year.... 17 in one day. Its pulled an F350 on 37's out of mud/water up to it doors, and a suburban on 37's in mud 3/4 the way up the tires.

Its not about how heavy your vehicle is, but how heavy the vehicle your pulling out is. I think I've used the winch to pull myself out 5 -7 of those 100 pulls.

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Its not about how heavy your vehicle is, but how heavy the vehicle your pulling out is. I think I've used the winch to pull myself out 5 -7 of those 100 pulls.
Yep...what he said!
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8ooo lb is all you need everyone is pointing you to overkill . And alot more money if you hve thst by all means go for it.

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Another vote for the EPi 9.0



I went back and forth between several different winches and got lots of great advice from folks here ...in the end this was best quality/price decision.

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I went back and forth between several different winches and got lots of great advice from folks here ...in the end this was best quality/price decision.

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what is so great about it ? what that it looks good?

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what is so great about it ? what that it looks good?
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Here I go where the most they will ever need is a 8000 lb pull correct me if i'm wrong! how many times have you needed it? Let's be straight most likely none over 8,000

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Actually, I just put it on. Hoping to get up to Rousch Creek in November ...break it in if I get the chance.

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Actually, I just put it on. Hoping to get up to Rousch Creek in November ...break it in if I get the chance.
I hope you don't need it yourself but if you do thank the 4x4 gods you have it.

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I hope you don't need it yourself but if you do thank the 4x4 gods you have it.
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Thanks brother ...
No I should be thanking all of you for all you have done for us on this site ? Im still a noobie at times.

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Rule of thumb for winches is 1.5 times the gross weight (loaded) of the vehicle.
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1.5 times the curb weight is the generally recommended minimum...
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I've got a power plant 12k on mine right now and will be getting a Warn 16.5ti next month. I feel I need more power.

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