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Air bags in 4 low

We rolled a 08 JK that was in 4 low and both lockers on. The drivers air bag went off but not the passenger. Whats up with how and when these things go off ?
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Air bags are not shut off.

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was someone in the passenger seat? If so, seat belt buckled?

Pretty sure if no one sits passenger then no air bag and if there is weight on the seat but no seat belt it wont go off either.


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was someone in the passenger seat? If so, seat belt buckled?

Pretty sure if no one sits passenger then no air bag and if there is weight on the seat but no seat belt it wont go off either.
I was in the passenger seat and it didn't go off. The drivers side did and he was OK. I got jacked up. I asked if the passenger side could be turned off and the driver didn't know. Can it be?
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was someone in the passenger seat? If so, seat belt buckled?

Pretty sure if no one sits passenger then no air bag and if there is weight on the seat but no seat belt it wont go off either.
Could be that if they deployed while the Jeep was upside down there wasn't enough weight on the passenger seat to trigger the airbag. They are designed to not go off if a small child is sitting there.
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I was in the passenger seat and it didn't go off. The drivers side did and he was OK. I got jacked up. I asked if the passenger side could be turned off and the driver didn't know. Can it be?
No, it can't. It only uses a weight sensor.
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Could be that if they deployed while the Jeep was upside down there wasn't enough weight on the passenger seat to trigger the airbag. They are designed to not go off if a small child is sitting there.
Good point... if they deployed after the roll it could be possible there was not enough weight on the seat.


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This is something i have not thought about...

It would be nice to disable the airbags while in 4low.

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I miss that fact that with my TJ...I could simply pull two fuses behind the glove-box. No such luck with the JK. I've searched the underhood fuse block and found nothing that indicates "air-bag sensor(s)".
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How about unplugging the seat wire harnesses?
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How about unplugging the seat wire harnesses?
I would be afraid to do it. Last car I owned people removed their set to install some part and when they put it back in and plugged the sensors in the air bag stayed lit and could deploy. Only way to make it go off was to go to the dealer and pay some hefty fee to reflash the air bag module.


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x 2. Not sure what the deal was, but according to some it is a VERY dangerous thing to do. Maybe it's like the air bags are left in "limbo" or something...lol.

Search through some of the threads in "stock JK section". Probably back a few pages and there is something about doing this, and why it is not recommended.
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I had my driver's side side airbag deploy out of the seat when we slid into a rock earlier this year. When I had the repairs done at the body shop I asked them about disabling the airbags while off road. According to what thier airbag representative said, you can unplug the 2 yellow top fuses in your fuse box to disable them. They just pop up and not completely out.

I myself have not yet tried it but here is a link to the original thread on the topic:

Disabling Air Bags While Off Road?

I'm sure any other feedback is welcome. I kept wanting to ask the Jeep Engineers when they do thier Q&A's but I missed the last one.


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DON"T DISABLE YOU AIRBAGS! The drivers air bag only deployed on about the second roll and it was an 8 foot rolling drop onto solid rock. We tumbled over again then off a 25'-50' drop off and twisted and tumbled another 250' to the bottom of a rocky canyon. Passenger side never went off so I got a face full of glass and windshield frame. I got thrown and wiped like a rag doll and have bruises and tears to prove it but the driver was basically snuggled up to a pillow.
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Man... do you have any pictures? Sounds like a hell of a tumble to be able to live to talk about it with no air bag deployed


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Man... do you have any pictures? Sounds like a hell of a tumble to be able to live to talk about it with no air bag deployed
Then you will call me a liar! The cliff was more like a hundred plus feet and the roll was more like 500'.
I got picts but can't seem to post them. If sombody shoots me an email and can post them you can see how the JK held up.
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I am not calling you a liar, I just want to see that JK! You are lucky to be alive when you had no protection so I would hope the drive compartment faired pretty well in the tumble.


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I am not calling you a liar, I just want to see that JK! You are lucky to be alive when you had no protection so I would hope the drive compartment faired pretty well in the tumble.
The windsheild and frame was in my face on the fist roll. The second roll bent the rear driverside cage in over a foot. The top of the cage that is right over your head is what we ducked under but it never took a hard hit. It looks like less than 1/8" stamped steel.
We hit the hardest on the rear bumper and that bent both seats back at an angle that you can tell we were both leaning in and back. This ain't our first rodeo so we knew to lean in and back. We got pure lucky and I'm glad we were in a JK. I think just a flop or simple roll the stock cage is fair but if sombody will post up the photos for me you will see that the stock protection is not enough for a real tumble, You will need a cage or God like we had on board.
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I got picts but can't seem to post them.
Go to "reply" or "post" and click on "manage attachments". When the window opens up you can "browse" your computer for the pics. Upload and your done. The pics have to (should be) re-sized to "web" or approx "25%" beforehand.

If you don't post em here, you may be sending out a lot of e-mails with this one.

REALLY want to see the JK also, but I'm just glad you are OK.
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[ATTACH]3514t 20 feet from the top and landed at 20' elevation above the level of this pict. We started just left of center off a switch back that got a lot of loose gravel washed in during the last storm. It looked fine and we never flinched abot driving right on up. Shows how fast things can change.
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Wow, I just noticed the drivers cage location after the fall. How the heck we walked out I have no clue.

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Gruesome shot of whats left.
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Holy [email protected] You guys definately had a co-pilot,,,,thank god you are alright after that one......
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