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You're probably not going to believe this....

I bought this crazy expedition trailer on a whim from a guy that used to own a Jeep scrapyard.


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It's basically just a JKU that was hacked off in front of the B pillar and turned into a trailer, everything rearward if stock JKU rear end.

So far it has 12v power, onboard air (and ARB single compressor), 19 gallons of fuel, 10 gallons of potable water, and provisions for a small shelf for cooking and an awning. It has the stock 2nd row JK seats, a windsheild, a CB radio and basic a stereo for passengers on the trail.

I'm looking for ideas on how to best use this crazy thing. First I need some matching wheels and enough lift to get it to match my Jeep with the MC 5.5, I'll also probably want to throw on some solar charging to keep the onboard 12v powered.

I'll be looking to bolt on some MetalCloak fenders, and some racks and storage. It needs cleaned up, and fresh paint. I'll probably strip it down and line the interior, and shoot the exterior either to match my Jeep or just Monstaline it black.

Any ideas on how to convert these rear doors to have a lock?

Any other great ideas?

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Nice grab the lock and window motor should be able to get powered up/working. No idea on the schematics.

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Nice grab the lock and window motor should be able to get powered up/working. No idea on the schematics.

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They're currently manual windows and locks. I'm OK with that, but because they are rear doors there's no provision for an external key. I wonder how hard it will be to swap in the electronic locks guts and enough wiring to make them actuate, maybe from a keypad with a code?

Hmmm...

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They're currently manual windows and locks. I'm OK with that, but because they are rear doors there's no provision for an external key. I wonder how hard it will be to swap in the electronic locks guts and enough wiring to make them actuate, maybe from a keypad with a code?



Hmmm...
I was thinking tapping your current rear locks and running a seperate trailer harness to the trailer to work with your current key fob.

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Ideally power locks that control both doors and the tailgate with my existing fob whether or not it's attached to the tow rig, but I have no idea how I can pull that off. Maybe some sort of "universal" power lock kit that learns the factory remote... not sure such a thing exists.

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Ideally power locks that control both doors and the tailgate with my existing fob whether or not it's attached to the tow rig, but I have no idea how I can pull that off. Maybe some sort of "universal" power lock kit that learns the factory remote... not sure such a thing exists.
Ron would know off the top of his head if feasible. I would shoot him a pm.

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That's a great looking rig. Just right for the In Laws!
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Another thing I'd like to get sorted out is a functional parking brake. Since the factory Dana 44 is still under it, I assume the ebrake hardware is still there. I just need a handle and a way to activate the existing ebrake setup.

Or possibly some hand-operated hydraulic setup using the factory brake calipers. The factory calipers might provide more braking power, but I know the old style line-locks were susceptible to temp changes in the fluid, and could release... I wouldn't want the in-laws accidentally rolling off a mountain somewhere in the middle of the night. ;-)

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Whoa that thing is cool! I would spend way too much on something like that if I ever came across one...

It almost looks long enough to serve as a sleeper/camper...not sure though couldn’t read the tape measurement. Already having an air compressor is nice and I would look for other ways for it to serve as a repair rig, not sure if it has an air tank but you could put a pretty good size one underneath and be able to effectively run pneumatic tools. Could of course carry the spare tire on its tailgate/aftermarket bumper and I would add a vice somewhere just from a few trail repairs I’ve experienced and you’ve probably seen too where a vice would come in handy, bit excessive but when you’ve got a rig like that to work with you can go all out.

Again that trailer is sweet imo and being able to customize/match it to the Jeep adds another level.
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My plans keep changing as I go, but for now I'm planning:

Adding a better roof rack
removing the seats ( I do not plan on carrying passengers in the trailer)
creating a flat platform to serve as a bed with storage underneath, or maybe just a rooftop tent.
I bought the last rear winch bumper on the planet (ok, maybe not, but it seems like it) not sure if that'll go on the trailer just yet.
adding more battery capacity (either 2 or 4 deep cycle batts, or maybe a LiPO unit pulled from a Tesla pack depending on how much room I can find )
adding solar for keeping the batts full.
creating a fuel transfer system (it has a 19gallon TJ tank, but no plumbing)
plumbing for water, maybe a provision for heating water (propane water heater or heat exchanger off the engine)
Propane tank mount
Elevated rack over the a-frame hitch section.
Some sort of diesel parking heater
cargo area slide for ARB fridge
electrical/wiring improvements
lift and tires to match the Jeep
Moving the MetalCloak fenders off the Jeep to the trailer, putting some new aluminum ones on the Jeep


I may try to fix some of the front-end ugly by moving the grill forward, hacking the fenders off the Jeep to fit around the tongue box, and fabricating a small hood to act as a lid for the storage area. That might make it a little less snubbed-nosed.

I might also try to extend the hitch a bit to give me more turning/flexing room.

A genny and A/C would be nice, but not sure I can pull that off just yet, but if I could, I will. I'm too old to sweat all night.

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An excellent use for a vehicle made by D.C.
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depending what's left behind the dash, you could probably cut an opening for a small window shaker and mount it low where the grill is and flex duct it to the ac vents. They make some pretty small two stroke generators that will power it.
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nice.


weighes in at?


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weighes in at?
The previous registration required that it be weighed. As I recall it said somewhere between 1500 and 1600 pounds. I'm assuming that's bone dry and empty.

I'd like to know for sure too. I need to find a race buddy and use his scales.

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The previous registration required that it be weighed. As I recall it said somewhere between 1500 and 1600 pounds. I'm assuming that's bone dry and empty.

I'd like to know for sure too. I need to find a race buddy and use his scales.

or a truckstop with a set of CAT scales.


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or a truckstop with a set of CAT scales.
I've seen the scales at truck stops before, but it's never been obvious to me how that works or what to do to get weighed. Maybe someone can fill me in on the process?

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I took my home made trailer to a metal scrap yard with a scale. Simply pulled forward to where the Jeep was not on the scale and the trailer was, they documented the weight, and I used it for my trailer license plate registration. Real simple process.


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How much is that? What I can only afford is this tent https://www.allmoparparts.com/sku/82209878.html, see that for the photo, worth $300 that my sister sold me for 200. The only pro for that is I can pack it up but if ever I am on a trip and suddenly it rains really hard I think what you have can be an option for me.
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How much is that? What I can only afford is this tent https://www.allmoparparts.com/sku/82209878.html, see that for the photo, worth $300 that my sister sold me for 200. The only pro for that is I can pack it up but if ever I am on a trip and suddenly it rains really hard I think what you have can be an option for me.
I'm into it for $3600, I paid 3k for the trailer and had it shipped for another 600...

So far I have about 1500 in a rear winch bumper and replacement fenders for the Jeep (the old ones get swapped to the trailer) and about 2500 bucks in stuff I'd like to do to it that I haven't got to just yet.

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Although that would be interesting, I'm not sure I'll ever have an excuse to do that.

The previous owner used it to haul people while on easy trails. That would be cool with the top removed, but I kind of intend to haul gear and sleep in it.

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Yeah, just fucking with you.

Touring people on a trail is funny shit though. Money grab idea!


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I bought this crazy expedition trailer on a whim from a guy that used to own a Jeep scrapyard.

Wow, that is badass!

I missed this when you first posted (was on vacation, tried to skip the internet that week )


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Any ideas on how to convert these rear doors to have a lock?
I'd get 3 universal actuators and a controller + remote for them.
Summit Racing probably has the parts or kit you need.
IMHO, worth the simplicity if you don't mind a second remote. Eff adding FCA electronics to a trailer

Someone will likely have a slicker idea, but there's my $.02 (ignore as you see fit )



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I may try to fix some of the front-end ugly by moving the grill forward, hacking the fenders off the Jeep to fit around the tongue box, and fabricating a small hood to act as a lid for the storage area. That might make it a little less snubbed-nosed.
Whatever makes you happy is what you should do, but I'd give function 10x the priority of form. I'd ditch the grille entirely and maximize utility of the tongue area (boxes racks, whatever serves you best). If you're set on making it look like a complete Jeep, the hood idea sounds cool.

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I might also try to extend the hitch a bit to give me more turning/flexing room.
Totally with you there - you're not going to jackknife it to 90 degrees, but every bit helps when you need to make a 3-point (or 22-point) turn in a tight spot.

EDIT: I'd tint the bejeezus out of the "windshield" on the trailer to cut down on the solar-oven phenomenon.

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I missed this when you first posted (was on vacation, tried to skip the internet that week )



I'd get 3 universal actuators and a controller + remote for them.
Summit Racing probably has the parts or kit you need.
IMHO, worth the simplicity if you don't mind a second remote. Eff adding FCA electronics to a trailer

Someone will likely have a slicker idea, but there's my $.02 (ignore as you see fit )




Whatever makes you happy is what you should do, but I'd give function 10x the priority of form. I'd ditch the grille entirely and maximize utility of the tongue area (boxes racks, whatever serves you best). If you're set on making it look like a complete Jeep, the hood idea sounds cool.


Totally with you there - you're not going to jackknife it to 90 degrees, but every bit helps when you need to make a 3-point (or 22-point) turn in a tight spot.

EDIT: I'd tint the bejeezus out of the "windshield" on the trailer to cut down on the solar-oven phenomenon.

Xa million on function over form. thinking of just removing the grill, as it's completely non-functional and pretty ugly. IF I can make it look cool AND still be really functional I might circle back around and do the little hood/grill thing later.

I've since found that it has the power locks (I think) as I found a wiring harness tucked into each door. With manual crank windows, that MUST be for power locks. I've not pulled the inner skin off to verify. I need to just throw some voltage on the wires and see what happens.

I found the universal lock kit on Summits page, thanks for the suggestion. Somehow it didn't occur to me that a universal kit would have the remote. Looks like I might be able to add a keypad or some other backup entry method (in case the remote takes a drink in the wilderness).

I'm thinking of replacing the front glass with a metal panel that i can use to mount some things (shelf, propane tank mount, additional storage, etc.) I might even do the same to the side glass, if I can figure out the best way to go about that.

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