My '08 was produced in June; had it since Aug. Driven thru a couple of good storms, No leaks as of yet. It whistles a bit but nothing compared to my old CJ or Bronco. I've had the front tops off, the rear hasn't been removed yet.
I'd save the Grand; I wouldn't pay more then $29K unless it had Dualtop and MyGig. then maybe $30k. Rubicon 4dr with auto, Dualtops and MyGig were window discounted to $30500 in Tulsa, OK 2 months ago. I'd say the price only go's down from there.
Good Hunting its a smooth ride.
Obama, The greatest gun salesman since the invention of firearms.
This is exactly why we need to practice proper gun control.
If he was aiming down the sights correctly and had plenty of practice rounds under his belt, there would only be one side of this story.