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22K miles lifted and now my own ESP/BAS light story

lifted my JK the week I bought it, originally a 2.5" BB kit then mutated into a 5.5" lift.
Everything has been great, NO esp problems, I've always kept my wheel centered after every iteration of lift and zero problems.

Yesterday I took a pretty good hit on the tie rod - one of those stupid concrete survey markers in the middle of my yard at about 30MPH (don't ask)
Wiped out the monument, just scuffed the paint on the tie rod - it hit just inside the drivers side adjuster sleeve. But it was a good enough whack to un-center my steering.
I noticed on the way to work this morning that the wheel is off a fair bit, on my way home "ding" esp/bas lights come on. I drove on home, ran a couple of errands. every time I started the jeep "ding".
So I go grab my 15mm, loosen the drag link sleeve give it about 1.25 turns to recenter the wheel, drove for a few minutes and the lights went off

So here's to hoping they stay off.
So far in my experience, keeping the wheel dead on centered seems to be the key

high steer is in the very near future so I'm not done playing with it yet.


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This will be my solution to steering/ ESP issues...If you have further (irritating) issues with yours, then you might consider adding this to your wish list...

http://www.pscmotorsports.com/sk255-...kit-p-733.html
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yeah, WISH list!
unfortunately there's about 1690.8 reasons I cant have that right now


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Well, you could consider not hitting things with your steering system.

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yeah yeah, but on the bright side, I don't have to mow around the damn thing anymore!


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This will be my solution to steering/ ESP issues...If you have further (irritating) issues with yours, then you might consider adding this to your wish list...
But that will not address the position of the tie rod and it will still be vulnerable to getting hit.

I bent my chromoly tie rod this weekend, and had the ESP/BAS light on for the journey home. After re-setting the toe it went out.
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So I go grab my 15mm, loosen the drag link sleeve give it about 1.25 turns to recenter the wheel, drove for a few minutes and the lights went off
That corrected the steering wheel position, but your toe needs adjusting as it will most probably be off.

It was very likely that a change in the tie rod geometry knocked your steering off, and that is what needs to be adjusted.

After tweaking my tie rod this weekend, my toe was off by approx 0.5. I reset the toe and adjusted the drag link to put everything back to normal.
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Yup, big rock + tie rod + 5,000lb JK = bent tie rod.

It's not heavily bent, but you can eye ball it. If it were a stock one, I'm pretty certain it would have been a lot worse. I'm not overly concerned about it, these things happen and it's still straight enough to work well. I've caught it on rocks quite a few times with no issues, but was a bit brutal on it this weekend.

Sometimes the rocks win
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That corrected the steering wheel position, but your toe needs adjusting as it will most probably be off.
you're correct,the tie rod got hit so it should be what bent- so recentering the wheel with the drag link is just a band aid. It also drives a little different, a little more prone to following the grooves in the road so it prob needs a little toe out added.
BUT I'm getting ready to redo the front end of the jeep with adj arms and a high steer conversion so I figure I'll live with it for a bit till then and actually try to find an alignment shop that can handle 35x12.50s and get it reset properly so I have a good basis to knock everything out of whack from


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Yup, big rock + tie rod + 5,000lb JK = bent tie rod.

It's not heavily bent, but you can eye ball it. If it were a stock one, I'm pretty certain it would have been a lot worse. I'm not overly concerned about it, these things happen and it's still straight enough to work well. I've caught it on rocks quite a few times with no issues, but was a bit brutal on it this weekend.

Sometimes the rocks win
im sure all the tie rods are the same strength with the same tubing but what were you running?

i have hit mine good, dropped about 15" straight onto to a rock with the tie rod and it held up great. I gues sI got lucky and you found the "spot"

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im sure all the tie rods are the same strength with the same tubing but what were you running?
A Poly Performance heat treated chromoly tie rod, which is way stronger than the stock one. I used to bend the stock one on every wheeling trip.
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BUT I'm getting ready to redo the front end of the jeep with adj arms and a high steer conversion so I figure I'll live with it for a bit till then and actually try to find an alignment shop that can handle 35x12.50s and get it reset properly so I have a good basis to knock everything out of whack from
That makes sense, as it's most probably only off by a little anyway.
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