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post #1 of 19 Old 12-28-2016, 11:21 AM Thread Starter
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Just ordered my front bumper and winch - Next up are rock rails/sliders. What are your favorites and why?
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post #2 of 19 Old 12-28-2016, 01:23 PM
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If you don't have commitment issues.... I have and really like the Crawler Conceptz rock sliders. It takes balls to drill into the body but they will take a beating. They make a fairly decent step and I feel sit higher compared to some of the other sliders. And they are made in the good ol' us of A.

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VKS all the way. Some of the best made sliders available.


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post #4 of 19 Old 12-30-2016, 12:54 PM
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You're in luck as there's plenty of good rock sliders available for the JK. The ones listed are really good and another option are the ones from JCR. Those have held up really well on my rig for the past few years.
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They aren't cheap but if you need/want powered steps, I really love my Rock Slide Engineering step sliders/armor!
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I have the VKS Prerunner sliders on my 2 door. Completely bolt on installations (well, with a lot of drilling) and they look great. I got some shit from friends (wheeling buddies) for not going with a weld on setup, which VKS also offers. Here's why;

-Yes, they aren't, in theory, as strong as a weld on setup, but I planned on using them. The ability to remove for paint/cleanup was important to me
-I didn't want anything in the way if future plans or directions change (Long arm, etc)
-Didn't want to spend time fuckin with the installation

I had some hesitations at first because of an improperly installed, similar set on a friends Jeep caused some flex and some damage. BUT, I've landed on mine hard, I've used them to pivot around stuff and I've used them to actually slide (V notch rock obstacle) and they have stood up and laughed it off. Plus they look great. I've seen no movement from them, they are securely tied to the FRAME (not the body, body mounts or some other witchcraft) and the design allows me to deflect off of stuff. Plus they slide really nice... same granite obstacle with VKS vs Stock, the stock actually took some work cause they were grabbing (as they deflected, bent, were a flat surface..) whereas the VKS glide across.

Two things don't worry me with my Jeep when I'm wheeling. I drive pretty cautiously and within my limits, but I don't care about smacking my Poison Spyder BFH front bumper and I don't care about landing on those sliders.

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I have EVO's welded on, and they are awesome!
VKS are very similar, and you can't go wrong with either of them in my opinion

One thing to keep in mind when installing them is how close you set them to the body.
When you take a really big hit, the body actually shifts on the rubber body mounts and will make possibly make contact with your sliders.
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Just ordered my front bumper and winch - Next up are rock rails/sliders. What are your favorites and why?
depends on your goals. probably in the order of easy duty to heavy duty -> some bolt to the tub. some bolt to the frame rail. some get welded.

i went with metalcloak's rocker with a removable step for various reasons. it's tub bolted, and they make references to the setup as a "rub rail" in their product descriptors. there's no chance it stands up to a super hard hit like a VKS, but i came down on a rock yesterday with a good thud and it seems to have held up fine.
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So what purpose does rocker armor serve if it doesn't prevent damage?

For example, Poison Spyder's tub mounted Rocker Knockers can cause body damage on hard hits or extreme use. Is that the case even if the Jeep has rocker armor?

I'm also in the market for sliders, and am trying to narrow my choices down as well.
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For really light wheeling where you never really hit them, someone would have no problem with body mount sliders. For even moderate wheeling bumping them into stuff, body mount sliders are simply a bad idea. You WILL do damage, it's only a matter of time. The damage probably won't be severe but it will distort things.

If you even slide Rubicon sliders let alone hit them you'll dent your tub to no end (stock Rubicon sliders are some of the weakest body mount sliders though - the ones that drill in and contact a large surface of the tub are significantly stronger). After denting up the tub I ended up building my own with $100 of tube and welded them to the frame. They're great. For moderate to hard wheeling, there's no substitute for frame mounted sliders at least 1/8th wall tube (bolt-on is fine too as long as it doesn't bolt to the body). Better to bump it up to 3/16" wall and for extreme wheeling you need 1/4" wall.

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One thing to keep in mind when installing them is how close you set them to the body.
When you take a really big hit, the body actually shifts on the rubber body mounts and will make possibly make contact with your sliders.
That's a really important point, I have mine mounted a bit under a 1/4 inch below the body and there's a little indent in the body where each tube has contacted during body/frame flex. That's the extent of the damage I will ever get and I don't care, but watch out for that.
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I have the Nemesis Billy Rocker on my 2 door and they exceeded my expectations. Some people don't like the alloy, instead of steel, but I've taken some very hard hits and they've done great. I sprayed painted them with good paint so that I can re-paint them as needed. One of the main reasons I bought the alloy rockers is because of weight.
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I have the VKS Prerunner sliders on my 4 door. They've survived drops, wedged granite v's and have been used to pivot around obstacles. They are scratched and battle scarred. They have exceeded everything I have expected from a set of sliders. There is not a mark on the jeeps tub or rockers because of them. Made in the USA and are fairly priced.

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Take a look at Poison Spyder Brawler Rocker also. They look good and can be used as steps.
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I have the VKS Prerunner sliders on my 2 door. Completely bolt on installations (well, with a lot of drilling) and they look great. I got some shit from friends (wheeling buddies) for not going with a weld on setup, which VKS also offers. Here's why;

-Yes, they aren't, in theory, as strong as a weld on setup, but I planned on using them. The ability to remove for paint/cleanup was .

They are probably the best bolt on i have seen but you still can't beat some of the weld on options for all out abuse.
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I have the VKS Prerunner sliders on my 2 door. Completely bolt on installations (well, with a lot of drilling) and they look great. I got some shit from friends (wheeling buddies) for not going with a weld on setup, which VKS also offers. Here's why;
They are probably the best bolt on I have seen but you still can't beat EVO or VKS weld on for all out abuse.
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Thanks for the kind words. We agree that the Billy Rockers are pretty legit.
Here is a shot of them with the optional step.

OP good luck in your hunt for the rails of your choice!



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I have the Nemesis Billy Rocker on my 2 door and they exceeded my expectations. Some people don't like the alloy, instead of steel, but I've taken some very hard hits and they've done great. I sprayed painted them with good paint so that I can re-paint them as needed. One of the main reasons I bought the alloy rockers is because of weight.

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Thanks for the kind words. We agree that the Billy Rockers are pretty legit.
Here is a shot of them with the optional step.

OP good luck in your hunt for the rails of your choice!

I might have to go with Nemisis I want to keep my money local. Plenty of other soldiers looking for local as well.
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I have used bolt on sliders and been disappointed.

VKS weld on's are killer.

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Are the JCR's frame mounted or tub mounted. They look tub mounted, but I wasn't sure.
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