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post #1 of 21 Old 08-30-2015, 12:05 PM Thread Starter
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Question built not bought?

So I have a question for all you JKO forum guys/girls:

If I dump a bunch of money and buy a ton of "off the shelf" parts, but I physically install all the parts myself in my gravel driveway, would you consider it "built not bought"?

What do you guys consider "not bought?"

I've been that guy that fabricated every single thing that went on my Jeep: body armor, bumpers, sliders, suspension, link mounts, control arms, shock hoops, fuel cell, paint job, hood, blah blah blah. And I tell you what, that build took me over two years and it was the dumbest thing that I ever did. What a waste of time when I could have bought the parts from internet and been done with the build in a month.
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post #2 of 21 Old 08-30-2015, 12:42 PM
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unless your mining the iron ore and making your own steel your still bought the steel. i hate the term "built not bought" i wish i had the money to buy a jeep built exactly the way i want.

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post #3 of 21 Old 08-30-2015, 01:51 PM
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I think if you install everything with your own hands it's built. At least that's what I consider my rig I didn't weld up the parts from plate steel but I have 100's of hours into it cutting, grinding, and installing all the parts I bought.
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I think "built not bought" is really just a way for the poor man to feel better about his Jeep not being as big and bad as the rich guy who paid a shop to build his.
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When the 2+ year long build of mine was finally over, I sold a month later because I was sick and tired of it already. 2 years of hand making pieces in your spare time was just dumb. I'll never make that mistake again. I'm buying off the shelf parts from here on out.
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I think "built not bought" is really just a way for the poor man to feel better about his Jeep not being as big and bad as the rich guy who paid a shop to build his.
lol. I can't wait to see the rich guy broke on the trail with no idea how to fix his rich guy built rig.

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post #7 of 21 Old 08-30-2015, 10:30 PM
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Surprise! Some of the rich guys that pay to have stuff built for their Jeep are perfectly capable of doing the trail repairs. It just makes sense to have someone else perform the work, if they don't have the time.
I hate built not bought, just because of the reverse elitism that it provokes.
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post #8 of 21 Old 08-31-2015, 12:25 AM
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I have done both. I have bought a fully built PSC buggy with a Ramjet 502 for .30 on the dollar of cost to build new. And I have spent 60k+ on building and LJ myself only to sell it for .45 on the dollar when I got bored with it. My current JK is the most I have ever spent on a rig and the only labor I didn't do myself is the Ls3 swap. I definitely feel buying a rig that is already built saves time and tons of money. Even if you spend a little more $ to make it how you want it. To me it makes more sense from a financial standpoint to buy built than to build it yourself.
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post #9 of 21 Old 08-31-2015, 12:30 AM
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I can't really say if mine is built, bought or simply tampered with.
Some parts I buy from various manufacturers, and other parts I manufacturer myself.
It's really a concoction of Jeep after market parts, earthmoving parts, truck parts and various bits and pieces from power houses and such.
But one thing is for sure, since after the first service, no one has layed a spanner on my JK but me.
That should put me a little towards the "built" aspect. ?
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I consider "bought" dropping the jeep off at xxxx and writing a check for 100k.

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That is the dumbest stuff, you'd of thought that would have died off back in the early 2000's! Every time I see those stickers its on 1 of 2 kinds of rigs; a junky old mud truck or a budget buggy.... typically both have envious attitudes and a bit of a Debbie downer personality! The offroad community looks at 90% of jk's as bought no matter who did what to it. If anything, I'm glad I see those stickers, it lets me know who not to trail ride with...

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You buy the wood to build a shed, anything you assemble by hand is built. It is a stupid phrase, and if we all had the money we would "buy" too.

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if you installed a pre made part or made it yourself i still consider it "built" by you... you took the time to do the research, buy the proper parts, and learn how to install it then i give the the credit of building up your rig. If you have the ability to make your own parts then more power to you but how many of us really have that option? when i sold my fully built up xj the kid went to school the next day and was bragging how awesome his new jeep was and how much better it was then others... when asked by other jeepers what brands were used or some specs he had no clue and made up some answers....not only was his not built but bought but hes also a douche.....
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Half the built rigs have crappy welds, poor geometry, and are lucky to go down the road without killing a bus full of nuns.

Half of the bought rigs have crappy welds, poor geometry, and are lucky to go down the road without killing a bus full of hookers.

If you have mad skills and can build a rig yourself, this is by far the best method......if you have money and can but a well-built rig for 40% of the cost of the parts, this by far is the best method.

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Who the fuck cares?

As long as you know how to safely & effectively patch a tire, re-seat a bead, pull and replace a shaft, recover a vehicle, replace a belt or hose, bleed brake lines, etc, etc... then who gives a shit what you installed or had someone else install?

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I'm going to have a sticker made that says "Bought not built" and stick it on my Jeep once I'm done with the build. And yes I meant to put "bought" before "built".

Then I have to find an appropriate place to put a confederate flag.
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Mine will say... bought then bolted

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Bolt on queen lol

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Some posts just automatically lower your IQ.....

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The phrase "bought not built", in my opinion, was likely introduced by a douchebag that had felt inferior in some part of his life. Probably got his lunch money stolen, fell short conquering pussy and just overall had an inferiority complex. But over the course of time developed a love of Jeeps and the realization of some mechanical ability. So he put together a Jeep that he feels is much better because he put it together all by himself. With all of the pride in his Jeep feels compelled to bash those that have more money than time.

What i do find unappealing about some folks is all that money and no interest in how a paid for, built rig is put together and how it functions. In addition to the aforementioned, a Jeeper that has no interest in learning. If you have time to spend 2-3 hours washing and applying tire shine, you have time to learn something about the Jeep. Then again, dudes are not made like they used to be. But that is another thread.

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It's a pirate 4x4 thing. They bag on anything that they think is not up to their expectations. They have peculiar type of elitism over there.
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